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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; Religion Moderator; Forest Keeper
MARK: The good Reformed Dr. E. posted some months back that she knew that her children were all saved with the same knowledge that she had about her own salvation.

Dr.E: You are not being honest recalling my posts correctly since I never made the above statement you attributed to me.

I have never said any of us can be sure of anyone's salvation other than our own. And I've made that statement dozens of times.

Further, I said I have a reasonable faith that my children are saved...

1) because God gave them to me in the first place and

2) because Scripture tells us...

"For the promise is unto you, and to you and your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call." - Acts 2:39
But I also acknowledged God may choose to give anyone He wants a devil child. It's His call.

My job is to raise my children to kneel to none but Christ, and thus I have confidence that God will take care of the rest.

Let's agree that you won't speak for me and I won't speak for you.

5,722 posted on 05/22/2008 12:14:02 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; Forest Keeper; stfassisi
But I also acknowledged God may choose to give anyone He wants a devil child

God creates devils? Goodness! And you call this "Christianity?"

5,725 posted on 05/22/2008 5:21:15 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***I have never said any of us can be sure of anyone’s salvation other than our own. And I’ve made that statement dozens of times. ***

I did not find any statements to the contrary, so I will defer to you. I did ping you in the first place so that you would have the opportunity to discuss or rebut.

***Further, I said I have a reasonable faith that my children are saved...

1) because God gave them to me in the first place and

2) because Scripture tells us...

“For the promise is unto you, and to you and your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.” - Acts 2:39***

You may wish to look at verse 38 for the context. If your children do not repent and are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, they will not receive the Holy Spirit. There is no frogmarching. Verses 40 and 41 confirm it. If the Holy Spirit hijacks souls, then no arguing and vehement testifying is necessary. Those who accept God’s grace and the message of the Church are those called His children.

***My job is to raise my children to kneel to none but Christ, and thus I have confidence that God will take care of the rest. ***

I think I’ve asked this before: how much kneeling do you actually do?

***Let’s agree that you won’t speak for me and I won’t speak for you.***

If I spoke for you, the message would be a lot closer to the message of Christ than it currently is.


5,728 posted on 05/22/2008 8:31:54 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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