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To: Forest Keeper

***I just mean that Christ did not come here to be a free-lancer. ***

Are you saying that we entertain the possibility that Jesus is apart from God?

***By never sinning He did everything God wanted Him to do. ***

Are you saying that you entertain the possibility that Jesus is apart from God?

***We know for sure that Jesus said He came here to obey the will of the Father, and we know that Jesus asked for the cup to be taken from Him. So, it sounds to me that the humanity in Jesus DID submit.***

Are you saying that Jesus is a separate entity from God?

***It is natural for us to say that the issue of salvation is “more important” than the issue of some of the statistics given in Numbers. So, I don’t argue with someone who says that the Gospels are “more important” for that issue. I’m just saying that God still wanted us to know those passages in Numbers, and they are still true. There are things to be learned that are important in other areas.***

No question. Scripture is Scripture. I simply maintain that the Sermon on the Mount is more important for salvation and our understanding of it. I do not put down anything in the Bible. The Church Fathers deemed it ultimately important and I dare not gainsay them.


3,664 posted on 03/08/2008 2:20:22 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Forest Keeper; irishtenor; wmfights; HarleyD; Quix; 1000 silverlings; ...
I simply maintain that the Sermon on the Mount is more important for salvation and our understanding of it.

"Our understanding?"

Weren't you one of the RCs awhile back who peculiarly asserted that the Sermon on the Mount was only spoken to the apostles and not to the "throngs" who had assembled with them to hear Jesus speak?

3,669 posted on 03/08/2008 2:28:32 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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FK: ***I just mean that Christ did not come here to be a free-lancer. ***

Are you saying that we entertain the possibility that Jesus is apart from God?

No, I don't see any evidence for that. I think Kosta was saying or implying that Jesus was free to disobey the will of the Father, and I disagree with that.

FK: ***By never sinning He did everything God wanted Him to do. ***

Are you saying that you entertain the possibility that Jesus is apart from God?

No, there's no evidence for that either. :) I was trying to show that Jesus told the truth when He said He came to do the will of the Father, and that He never deviated once. Because they are not apart I don't think it was possible for Him to deviate.

Are you saying that Jesus is a separate entity from God?

The Son is a separate person from the Father and the Spirit, and they are all one in essence. Jesus has two natures, one fully human and one fully Divine.

3,968 posted on 03/13/2008 11:25:10 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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