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To: MarkBsnr; Forest Keeper; irishtenor; wmfights; HarleyD; Quix; 1000 silverlings; ...
I simply maintain that the Sermon on the Mount is more important for salvation and our understanding of it.

"Our understanding?"

Weren't you one of the RCs awhile back who peculiarly asserted that the Sermon on the Mount was only spoken to the apostles and not to the "throngs" who had assembled with them to hear Jesus speak?

3,669 posted on 03/08/2008 2:28:32 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***Weren’t you one of the RCs awhile back who peculiarly asserted that the Sermon on the Mount was only spoken to the apostles and not to the “throngs” who had assembled with them to hear Jesus speak?***

I am with the Church Fathers and with the Church. I have no need of faddish interpretations. We are informed that Jesus spoke to the Apostles; we are then given the words that He spoke. We are informed.

It is possible in the world of the Reformed that one cannot overhear the words of one to another without believing that the words are also directed to them; indeed, the Reformed theology appears to be a very diverse and muddled puddle of misunderstandings.

It is clear from the passage that Jesus, up in the mountain with the Apostles and well away from the crowds was speaking to them. There were no microphones and external speakers in those days. No sound boosters. I’d suggest that you consider the level of technology as opposed to our current level. I’d also suggest that the KJV was not widely circulated at the time of Christ.


3,675 posted on 03/08/2008 2:37:50 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; Forest Keeper; irishtenor; wmfights; HarleyD; Quix; 1000 silverlings
Dr. E to Mark: Weren't you one of the RCs awhile back who peculiarly asserted that the Sermon on the Mount was only spoken to the apostles and not to the "throngs" who had assembled with them to hear Jesus speak?

No I did. And I still do. One does not address the crowds sitting down.

3,708 posted on 03/08/2008 9:49:20 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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