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To: kosta50
They called Chaldee Hebraisti (Hebrew tongue). Now, even a first a grade biblical scholar knows that Chaldee was Aramaic. It is referenced four times in the Gospel of John as such, inlcuidng the inscription on the Cross, which was not in (Biblical) hebrew, but in Chaldee (Aramaic).

Should we change the title of the Book of Hebrews to the Book of the Chaldeans or the Book of the Syrians or the Book of the Arameans???? Why is it so hard to call the language of the Jews what it is and was: HEBREW.

"And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew ["Hebraisti"] , and Greek, and Latin." [[John 19:19-20]

If the author John meant "Chaldee" he would have written "Chaldee", and if he meant "Aramaic", he would have written "Aramaic", but he didn't because it wasn't. It was called HEBREW -- and you cannot erase it from either history or the Greek scriptures.

1,218 posted on 02/04/2008 1:31:10 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Are you going to base your entire argument on your translation of the Bible, and I do focus on the word TRANSLATION?


1,219 posted on 02/04/2008 2:11:53 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Uncle Chip
Why is it so hard to call the anguage of the Jews what it is and was: HEBREW

Are just trying to be intentionally obtuse? Do you call the language of the Americans American? (you probably do, it wouldn't surprise me).

They didn't speak Hebrew in the 1st century. The name "Hebrew" referred to Biblical Hebrew (to differentiate it from Dead Sea Scroll Hebrew). In the Greek New Testament it is Hebraisti which was the koine Greek word for Chaldee (Aramaic). Which part of this don't you understand?

Just because our language is English doesn't mean we are English. Just because Alexandrian Jews spoke Greek and lived in Egypt doesn't mean they were Greek-speaking Egyptians, but Greek-speaking Jews.

The New testament Greek (look up any source) says Habrais means:


1,220 posted on 02/04/2008 2:26:31 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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