Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Hey, there's probably good money to be had for that brain...
AND the nose!
But a cute slacker, nonetheless.
Amen, FK! Keeping ‘em honest.
LOL!!!! Of course, once modified accordingly, I might be exactly right for the RCC.
As a young Army officer (years ago), we joked that one had to get a frontal lobotomy in order to make major (O-4). We lieutenants would say, “I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!”
From eBay: "We never know when another of these rare relics will turn up again, and then after months of waiting, one or two arrive from one of the convents we work with in Peru. These little skulls were placed on a nuns rosary as an ever present reminder of their mortality. You could say they were used to help focus when a nun was in silent prayer or meditating.
To attach the skull to the rosary, a hole was drilled through the top of the skull down to its base. Then a doubled up silver wire in the shape of an up side down "U", would be inserted to make a bail on the top of the skull. Our previous auction winners have had their dentists drill the hole, as these have been in storage at the convents museum annex and have never been used.
These pieces are each made of carved bone and are 200 or more years old. We were only sent a few for auction and then there will be no more.
The one you are bidding on 3/4 inch from the top of the skull to the chin. The carving is exceptional and the patina original to the piece."
But hurry, the bidding closes on 13 May!
The OT is not a complete revelation, but it is vital to understand what God wants us to understand. It DOES teach faith in the correct God. Everything that was revealed was in God's own time and by His design. You can't throw out the OT because it's not the NT. Billions of people don't believe in the NT so does that mean we should throw that out too? :)
The early Christians venerated the bones of the Saints
We can trace back veneration of relics and symbols to the earliest of Christians,like the ones who admired the life of Saint Polycarp-who was a Disciple of Saint John. They even brought the bones in as reminders.
We took up his bones, which are more valuable than precious stones and finer than refined gold, and laid them in a suitable place, where the Lord will permit us to gather ourselves together, as we are able, in gladness and joy and to celebrate the birthday of his martyrdom.
(The Martyrdom of Polycarp, dated to about 150 AD.)
Saint Jerome also wrote..
We do not worship, we do not adore, for fear that we should bow down to the creature rather than to the creator, but we venerate the relics of the martyrs in order the better to adore him whose martyrs they are. (Ad Riparium, XXII)
And you trusted This Blessed Saint during Bible Canon. Correct?
The calvinists venerate the mind of John Calvin and his own personal scriptural interpretations as if he were some prophet.Thus elevating calvin above the Saints and the Martyr's who gave their life for Christ and His Church
Here is what Calvin's favorite Saint said...
From Saint Augustine..
If a father's coat or ring, or anything else of that kind, is so much more cherished by his children, as love for one's parents is greater, in no way are the bodies themselves to be despised, which are much more intimately and closely united to us than any garment; for they belong to man's very nature. It is clear from this that he who has a certain affection for anyone, venerates whatever of his is left after his death, not only his body and the parts thereof, but even external things, such as his clothes, and such like. Now it is manifest that we should show honor to the saints of God, as being members of Christ, the children and friends of God, and our intercessors. Saint Augustine(De Civ. Dei i, 13
I'll bet you have no problem with the pagan goddess lady liberty that stands in NY harbor that people venerate in the name of freedom?
FK: It's true we probably wouldn't come to Christianity as we know it, however, we could have still come to salvation as the OT righteous knew it.
Kosta: Then why was Christ necessary?
Christ was necessary to die for our sins. The OT righteous were saved only because Jesus DID come. I thought you were referring only to the text of the NT, as opposed to the events of the NT. It was absolutely necessary for Jesus to come as He did.
In fact there are dozens of examples, especially in 1 Peter, where the suffering of Christ is the way we must follow, but of course this part of the Bible is overlooked for practical purposes...
Good scripture and I completely agree. Anyone calling himself a Christian who never suffers for Christ has something to worry about.
***The fact is the OT does not lead anyone to believe in a Christ-like God, otherwise the Jews would have accepted Christ as their Messiah.***
You’d have to try really hard NOT to see Christ in the Psalms, Kosta.
“Youd have to try really hard NOT to see Christ in the Psalms, Kosta.”
I think I agree, Kosta mou! And beyond that, the Psalms are in many ways a sort of spiritual playbook for theosis. In the interests of full disclosure, I add that the Psalms are my absolute favorite book of the OT.
Interesting article. The pope dresses up as Santa and bargains with bones that “exude manna”. You can’t make this stuff up
Yes, even early Christians were susceptible to pagan influences. Most rid themselves of this foul practice, by the grace of God.
The calvinists venerate the mind of John Calvin and his own personal scriptural interpretations as if he were some prophet.Thus elevating calvin above the Saints and the Martyr's who gave their life for Christ and His Church
Nope. Calvin is one among the saints of Christ, by the grace of God alone.
If a father's coat or ring, or anything else of that kind, is so much more cherished by his children, as love for one's parents is greater, in no way are the bodies themselves to be despised, which are much more intimately and closely united to us than any garment; for they belong to man's very nature."
LOLOL. You're taking those words of Augustine's to mean that he was here instructing us to venerate relics!?!
From those words it is clear Augustine is simply saying we should not hate our earthly bodies because our bodies are from God.
Remember Augustine wasn't the pent-up monastic Rome still encourages to this day.
By the indiscriminant use of the quotation marks it looks like the rest of what you wrote is merely someone's comment about what Augustine said, and not his own words. Confusing, to say the least.
I'll bet you have no problem with the pagan goddess lady liberty that stands in NY harbor that people venerate in the name of freedom?
I've never seen anyone kneeling in prayer to the Statue of Liberty or praying to her for intercession, as Rome instructs its members to do in defiance to the word of God...yet again.
Good grief. They have no shame.
You could say they were used to help focus when a nun was in silent prayer or meditating.
lol. Right. Nuns suffer from so much distraction. All those tickle-fights. And the ironing never stops.
Apparently they can. 8~)
"The cross is empty! Praise God! We have no need of earthly relics. Our only need is Christ risen."
"papal temporal power." [excerpt]
Good grief. What’s next? Poor St. Nick...
That’s what I ate for supper last night...oh dear.
I’ve wanted one for years. Nothing like wearing a skull to keep you focussed.
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