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Why We Whisper: Restoring Our Right to Say It's Wrong
First Things-The Journal of Religion, Culture and Public Life ^ | January 17, 2008 | By Jim DeMint and J. David Woodard

Posted on 01/25/2008 7:14:19 PM PST by tpanther

Why We Whisper: Restoring Our Right to Say It’s Wrong

By Jim DeMint and J. David Woodard

Thursday, January 17, 2008, 6:47 AM

On August 31, 2007, the president of Clemson University opened a letter from the South Carolina chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union that read, “Coach [Tommy] Bowden . . . has abused his authority as . . . head football coach by imposing his strong personal religious beliefs upon student-athletes under his charge.” In published reports, cited in the letter, the coach encouraged his players to attend one church service as a team during the two-a-day practices each preseason.

Even though “Church Day” was voluntary, and those who declined to attend suffered no penalty on or off the field, the ACLU urged the university president to end the practice of Coach Bowden taking his team to church. This practice of legal intimidation, directed at both individuals and organizations who affirm traditional values, we label as SLAPP, for “Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation.” The ACLU ploy is not new; it invokes the requirement of “pluralism” to secure submission to the doctrine of a secular, naked public square. Anything religious, especially if it is associated with the religion with which nine of ten Americans identify, must be denied public salience. The free exercise of religion becomes synonymous with “theocracy,” and its practice declared to be a threat to democracy and the public order.

Few issues are as important today as the protection of the First Amendment rights of freedom of speech and the practice of religion. These rights are the most treasured benefits of living in a free and democratic nation, and they are more than a help; they are foundational principles that promote and protect a healthy democracy. Today these fundamental freedoms are everywhere under attack, and the positive influences and societal protections they afford have been routinely ignored by new elites allied to government power and anxious to advance a new agenda.

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TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; clemson; coach; publicsquare; religionandstate
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1 posted on 01/25/2008 7:14:22 PM PST by tpanther
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To: tpanther

Put some foot baths in the locker room. They’ll get over it.


2 posted on 01/25/2008 7:15:54 PM PST by JZelle
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To: tpanther

I saw “whispers’ and for a minute I thought it was the Huckabee troll.


3 posted on 01/25/2008 7:21:41 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
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To: tpanther

The ACLU would have no problem if the coach had required all the football players to attend a gay pride parade or an anti-Christian rally.


4 posted on 01/25/2008 7:27:59 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: tpanther; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; Abbeville Conservative; ...
..the ACLU urged the university president to end the practice of Coach Bowden taking his team to church.

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5 posted on 01/25/2008 7:35:01 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: Amelia

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6 posted on 01/25/2008 7:36:15 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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The complete article can be found here.

Jim DeMint is the junior senator from South Carolina.
J. David Woodard holds the Thurmond Chair in Government at Clemson University.

7 posted on 01/25/2008 7:46:47 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The ACLU is more than an annoyance. It is more than just an outfit to promote child porn and social deconstruction.

It is a racketeering organization which needs to be taken down under RICO. It scams the taxpayers out of millions of dollars by forcing them to pay for bogus lawsuits or payoffs to make them go away.

It needs to be taken down.

8 posted on 01/25/2008 7:47:44 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
The ACLU responded to the Clemson letter by saying they would “wait and see” about what happened when preseason practices resume in August 2008. In other words, “back down or prepare to pay the price” in court.
 
Coach Bowden

9 posted on 01/25/2008 7:51:54 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Why be Europe?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Sounds like the ACLU is attempting to use the courts to interfere with the coach's religious freedom rights.

That would be a violation of the federal civil rights laws, and that has penalties up to and including IMPRISONMENT.

Time for the ACLU to go to jail.

10 posted on 01/25/2008 8:09:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: tpanther

Is Clemson A state University? If not What the hell business is it of the ACLU?


11 posted on 01/25/2008 8:19:37 PM PST by Boiling point (If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.)
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To: tpanther

The ACLU aren’t mice...they’re rats..diseased perverted traitor rats.


12 posted on 01/25/2008 8:43:22 PM PST by DGHoodini (Silent tears, bleeding heart...Well our prima donna plies her art.)
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To: Boiling point

It is.


13 posted on 01/25/2008 9:03:37 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
EXACTLY SO!!!

the "aclu" is AGAINST everything that doesn't fit their PREJUDICES & American-HATING agenda.

i predict that within this decade that the "aclu" will sue someone over flying the Stars & Stripes, as being "nationalistic" & not sufficiently "multicultural".

free dixie,sw

14 posted on 01/25/2008 9:22:55 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: tpanther

Holy Crap, dosen’t the ACLU knuckle draggers got anything better to do than worry about Tommy Bowden.


15 posted on 01/25/2008 9:34:38 PM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: tpanther; SC Swamp Fox
The link and source you used did not match the content. Fortunately, SC Swamp Fox was kind enough to provide an accurate source and link on thread, which is something you should have included when you first posted this.

TPanther, please do not use fake source names and links for any published article again. Thanks.

16 posted on 01/25/2008 9:39:14 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: SC Swamp Fox

The ACLU exists as an anti-American hate-America group. It seems that their members live in the shadows almost invisible to their neighbors and fellow citizens. I wonder if these slimeballs were more publicly exposed, including their names and home addresses, if they would be so eager to attack the good things of our society. It seems to me we all make it a little too easy for these weasels to do their dirt by simply filing and mailing some certified letters to the courts.


17 posted on 01/26/2008 4:01:13 AM PST by doosee
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To: Boiling point
Is Clemson A state University? If not What the hell business is it of the ACLU?

It is, and it's still none of their damned business.

Who the hell appointed that damned bunch of nosey b-stards the guardians of the worlds speech and thought??

Why the hell doesn't the State that had guts enough to fire the first shot in a war to protect what they considered (I think rightfully) in a war to protect their stats's and their p[ersonal rights to live free of harassment, hitch up their britches and sue the hell out of the ACLU for harassment, attempted extortion, and being an all-around damned niusance (known as filing frivilous lawsuite), and anything else they can think of? After all the ACLU is in reality nothing more than a large group of incorporated law practices, and so far as I know, not immune from suit in the courts.

18 posted on 01/26/2008 7:12:23 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Vigilanteman

Congress needs to change the law to disallow taxpayer funding for lawsuits involving religious freedom.


19 posted on 01/26/2008 7:28:08 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Dr. Woodard is one of the best political science professors in the country.


20 posted on 01/26/2008 7:39:18 AM PST by Gipper08 (a real conservative for Congress... Aaronhankins.com)
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