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To: Osage Orange
>>>Please point out some of these "greater works"...by mormon prophets.

If you have a problem with what Jesus said why don't you take it up with him?

>>>Besides, increasing the bottom line for LD$, Inc.

You do realize there is no paid clergy in the LDS church. It's like another scripture where Jesus talked about "Purse or Scrip". But i'll let you google that one. Perhaps you want to argue that point with Jesus too?

86 posted on 01/23/2008 9:48:02 AM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Rameumptom
If you have a problem with what Jesus said why don't you take it up with him?

LOL...you know that wasn't the question. Why don't you answer it? You do realize there is no paid clergy in the LDS church. It's like another scripture where Jesus talked about "Purse or Scrip". But i'll let you google that one. Perhaps you want to argue that point with Jesus too?

Why don't you address my point? There are PAID people in LD$ Inc. That mantra is old...give it a rest.

Explain to me....what's LD$ Inc. doing buying BILLION $$$ hotels, ranches, and shopping malls?

88 posted on 01/23/2008 9:57:35 AM PST by Osage Orange ("Bill Clinton is an unusually good liar" - Bob Kerry)
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To: Rameumptom
 
If you have a problem with what Jesus said why don't you take it up with him?
 
Damned good idea!!!
 
 
 
 
Galatians 1:7-10
 7.  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 9.  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
 
 
2 Corinthians 11:14-15
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 15.  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
 
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”  
 
 
 
If one believes the Bible is correct, then, by that Standard, Mormonism fails the test.
 
 
If, however, you are convinced that the Bible is either in error, been corrupted or mis-interpreted, then you are free to believe whatever you wish.
 
 
 
 
 

141 posted on 01/23/2008 12:38:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rameumptom
You do realize there is no paid clergy in the LDS church.

Of COURSE an 8,000 sq ft apartment for the Living Prophet (the one with the bulletproof glass) doesn't count.

 

(The Pope has about and 800 sq ft apartment)

 



Now the BIBLE says....
 
Mark 6
 1.  Jesus left there and went to his hometown, accompanied by his disciples.
 2.  When the Sabbath came, he began to teach in the synagogue, and many who heard him were amazed.   "Where did this man get these things?" they asked. "What's this wisdom that has been given him, that he even does miracles!
 3.  Isn't this the carpenter? Isn't this Mary's son and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas and Simon? Aren't his sisters here with us?" And they took offense at him.
 4.  Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown, among his relatives and in his own house is a prophet without honor."
 5.  He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.
 6.  And he was amazed at their lack of faith.   Then Jesus went around teaching from village to village.
 7.  Calling the Twelve to him, he sent them out two by two and gave them authority over evil  spirits.
 8.  These were his instructions: "Take nothing for the journey except a staff--no bread, no bag, no money in your belts.
 
It says JOURNEY, not the PREACHING.
 
Consider THIS:
 
1 Corinthians 9
 1.  Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not the result of my work in the Lord?
 2.  Even though I may not be an apostle to others, surely I am to you! For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
 3.  This is my defense to those who sit in judgment on me.
 4.  Don't we have the right to food and drink?
 5.  Don't we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord's brothers and Cephas ?
 6.  Or is it only I and Barnabas who must work for a living?
 7.  Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat of its grapes? Who tends a flock and does not drink of the milk?
 8.  Do I say this merely from a human point of view? Doesn't the Law say the same thing?
 9.  For it is written in the Law of Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain."  Is it about oxen that God is concerned?
 10.  Surely he says this for us, doesn't he? Yes, this was written for us, because when the plowman plows and the thresher threshes, they ought to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest.
 11.  If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you?
 
And this...
 

2 Corinthians 2:16-17
   Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, like men sent from God.
 
They did not PROFIT from it, just had their NEEDS met.
 

Acts 4:34-35
 34.  There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales
 35.  and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.
 
People DID give money to the Apostles.
 
1 Corinthians 16:1-2
 1.  Now about the collection for God's people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do.
 2.  On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.

 

146 posted on 01/23/2008 12:54:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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