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Police Name Shooter [gunman at New Life Church in Colorado identified]
MyFox Colorado ^ | 12/10/2007

Posted on 12/10/2007 11:52:02 AM PST by Alex Murphy

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1 posted on 12/10/2007 11:52:06 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Live video from inside the church....

http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5173920&version=14&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1


2 posted on 12/10/2007 11:58:03 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Alex Murphy

They took it down.


3 posted on 12/10/2007 11:59:37 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Merry Christmas!)
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Matthew J. Murray? What kind of name is that for a Muslim?


4 posted on 12/10/2007 12:00:56 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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Police in Arvada said they believed the shootings -- which occurred 12 hours and about 65 miles apart -- were probably linked, though they had nothing conclusive to back up the theory.

"Given the circumstances, I think it is a good possibility that the two are linked," Arvada Deputy Police Chief Gary Creagor told The Associated Press early Monday. "But we have to prove that they are."

Does this mean that they still aren't certain that it was the same shooter at both locations? Or just that they are unwilling to confirm that this man targeted people at two religious institutions?

5 posted on 12/10/2007 12:00:56 PM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: claudiustg

As good as one as Charles Bishop (Charles Bishra) or Richard Reid (Abdul Raheem).

Doesn’t mean anything one way or the other.


6 posted on 12/10/2007 12:02:24 PM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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Matthew J. Murray? What kind of name is that for a Muslim?

Not a very good Muslim.

7 posted on 12/10/2007 12:03:46 PM PST by the808bass
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“”” Matthew J. Murray? What kind of name is that for a Muslim? “””

No crap. I like how AllahPundit bans people for pulling that on hotair.


8 posted on 12/10/2007 12:05:05 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: weegee
Or just that they are unwilling to confirm that this man targeted people at two religious institutions?

If it's a homeschooler who was raised as a Christian do you want them to emphasize that in their coverage of the targeting of two religious institutions?

9 posted on 12/10/2007 12:05:06 PM PST by the808bass
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At this stage how can the conclusion be reached that this was a random act? The shooter was reported to be wearing body armor and a tactical helmet and that several devices, either bombs or smoke generators were placed on the campus.


10 posted on 12/10/2007 12:05:49 PM PST by Truth29
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this was the GoldenCompass Killer?


11 posted on 12/10/2007 12:06:11 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Lurker; Eaker; Travis McGee; Squantos; Noumenon; meadsjn; joanie-f; B4Ranch; ...
The security guard at the church shows us, without a doubt, that conceal carry and the ability for the private citizens to be armed, STOPS these attacks. That it SAVES LIVES, and that it should be the policy of every church, school, mall, etc.

THIS is what the MSM should be focusing on if they had a single ounce, one cintilla of true jounalism left in their collective system. This is the news, along with he attack itself, that should be grabbing healines:

"ARMED HEROINE PREVENTS SLAUGHTER AT CHURCH BY SHOOTING THE ATTACKER DEAD"

Thank God that pastor there LISTENED to the inspiration he felt regarding protecting his flock, and then ACTED on it that morning by getting the additional security in place, which included, among other things as I understand it, getting his people to safe places within the church, each group protected by an armed security guard, and getting them out of the line of fire...as well as having this particular security guard near him who was able (and WILLING) to react to the attack by taking the fight directly to the perp and taking him down.

Without such actions and plan, their would have been a much, much more horrific body count I am afraid...which just punctuates the point of arming the people so they can stop such attacks as they develop.

12 posted on 12/10/2007 12:11:13 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Agreed!!!


13 posted on 12/10/2007 12:14:42 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: the808bass

>> If it’s a homeschooler who was raised as a Christian do you want them to emphasize that in their coverage of the targeting of two religious institutions? <<

You think they wouldn’t have mentioned it was a Christian if he had shot up an atheist’s convention or an abortion clinic?

Besides, I only know of one Christian who routinely wears a skull cap, and I’m sure Pope Benedict’s got an alibi.


14 posted on 12/10/2007 12:21:44 PM PST by dangus
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To: claudiustg

Yesterday, a few people here were betting that this terrorist was a Muslim.

It appears Matt is not a Muslim, but instead an American Terrorist.


15 posted on 12/10/2007 12:23:55 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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They know. They knew yesterday. It took them less than one hour to compare shells. I just don’t understand why they don’t just come out and tell the public.


16 posted on 12/10/2007 12:24:46 PM PST by yorkie ( For God so loved the world........................ that He didn't send a committee.)
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Something tells me that they had received threats before.

24-year-old Matthew J. Murray of Englewood, who was shot and killed by a member of the church's armed security staff.

I don't know many churches that have armed security, except maybe the Vatican, and some offshoot cults.

17 posted on 12/10/2007 12:28:53 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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Besides, I only know of one Christian who routinely wears a skull cap, and I’m sure Pope Benedict’s got an alibi.

LOL! I'm still betting on Muslim convert (although he may also have been a nut or had a personal grudge, such as rejection by a girlfriend), because of the beard and the skullcap, if those reports were accurate. Furthermore, the family has two sons, and this would be the one, I believe, who was going to college in OK, although I don't know what school.

18 posted on 12/10/2007 12:31:00 PM PST by livius
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CNN: "Female Security Guard Hailed as Hero"... "saved 'hundreds of lives'"

They read your post!

19 posted on 12/10/2007 12:31:31 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: P8riot

I’m glad they did have security but yes, I find it odd also.


20 posted on 12/10/2007 12:32:26 PM PST by bonfire
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