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1 posted on 12/10/2007 11:52:06 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Live video from inside the church....

http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5173920&version=14&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1


2 posted on 12/10/2007 11:58:03 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Alex Murphy

They took it down.


3 posted on 12/10/2007 11:59:37 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Alex Murphy

Matthew J. Murray? What kind of name is that for a Muslim?


4 posted on 12/10/2007 12:00:56 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Police in Arvada said they believed the shootings -- which occurred 12 hours and about 65 miles apart -- were probably linked, though they had nothing conclusive to back up the theory.

"Given the circumstances, I think it is a good possibility that the two are linked," Arvada Deputy Police Chief Gary Creagor told The Associated Press early Monday. "But we have to prove that they are."

Does this mean that they still aren't certain that it was the same shooter at both locations? Or just that they are unwilling to confirm that this man targeted people at two religious institutions?

5 posted on 12/10/2007 12:00:56 PM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: Alex Murphy

At this stage how can the conclusion be reached that this was a random act? The shooter was reported to be wearing body armor and a tactical helmet and that several devices, either bombs or smoke generators were placed on the campus.


10 posted on 12/10/2007 12:05:49 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Alex Murphy

this was the GoldenCompass Killer?


11 posted on 12/10/2007 12:06:11 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Lurker; Eaker; Travis McGee; Squantos; Noumenon; meadsjn; joanie-f; B4Ranch; ...
The security guard at the church shows us, without a doubt, that conceal carry and the ability for the private citizens to be armed, STOPS these attacks. That it SAVES LIVES, and that it should be the policy of every church, school, mall, etc.

THIS is what the MSM should be focusing on if they had a single ounce, one cintilla of true jounalism left in their collective system. This is the news, along with he attack itself, that should be grabbing healines:

"ARMED HEROINE PREVENTS SLAUGHTER AT CHURCH BY SHOOTING THE ATTACKER DEAD"

Thank God that pastor there LISTENED to the inspiration he felt regarding protecting his flock, and then ACTED on it that morning by getting the additional security in place, which included, among other things as I understand it, getting his people to safe places within the church, each group protected by an armed security guard, and getting them out of the line of fire...as well as having this particular security guard near him who was able (and WILLING) to react to the attack by taking the fight directly to the perp and taking him down.

Without such actions and plan, their would have been a much, much more horrific body count I am afraid...which just punctuates the point of arming the people so they can stop such attacks as they develop.

12 posted on 12/10/2007 12:11:13 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Something tells me that they had received threats before.

24-year-old Matthew J. Murray of Englewood, who was shot and killed by a member of the church's armed security staff.

I don't know many churches that have armed security, except maybe the Vatican, and some offshoot cults.

17 posted on 12/10/2007 12:28:53 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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I tend to believe the Arvida police rather than the Colorado Springs cops. (Arvida says probably linked, CS says random).


22 posted on 12/10/2007 12:46:11 PM PST by PAR35
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marked to read later


25 posted on 12/10/2007 12:57:51 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Alex Murphy
Colorado Springs Police identified the gunman as 24-year-old Matthew J. Murray of Englewood, who was shot and killed by a member of the church's armed security staff.

He said the security guard was a volunteer but he did not release her name.

Volunteer armed security guard?

Armed citizen PING!

34 posted on 12/10/2007 3:46:53 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalism -- threat or menace?")
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