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talk about inculcating left-wing, marxist politics and paganism into the faithful. I wonder if the Catholic Conference works as hard to get pro-life politicians elected. I bet not.
1 posted on 12/07/2007 1:39:19 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus
As a Los Angeles Catholic I ask must this Mahoney offend at every turn? I feel so very angry and sad when these sort of events and policies go against our American laws (previous stands on protecting/supporting and even hiding illegals etc) and get political. It makes it very difficult to feel connected to the larger diocese and to feel renewed at at peace with my own church. Very sad. This is no mistake and that is what makes it so very malicious. If it was an honoring without all the political connotations that would be quite another thing, but sadly it is not. This man should be given the big boot.
2 posted on 12/07/2007 1:50:42 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Coleus

EXACTLY!


3 posted on 12/07/2007 1:51:37 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Coleus; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Catholic Ping
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5 posted on 12/07/2007 1:58:05 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx

Ping.


6 posted on 12/07/2007 2:05:52 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Coleus; GOP Poet; rogator; NYer
I don't understand why Our Lady of Guadalupe (whom I love) has to be "interpreted" in terms of corrupt liberal politics.

Home and family. The people who crossed the border via fraud, trespass, or trafficking, or remained in the USA using forged papers and stolen identities, have homes and families in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador. We should respectfully send them back. They should respectfully go.

Care and compassion. There's no need to be callous toward a person who is sick and hungry. Give them some food and decent clothing for their bus trip south. Notify a Mexican hospital that they're on their way.

Patience and kindness. What if it's a case of somebody's immigration status being screwed up by some inadvertent paperwork mistake or U.S. bureaucratic blunder? Fine. They need some assistance. In the meantime they can stay as guests at Roger Mahony's place, 3424 Wilshire Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90010-2241.

I am not being sarcastic about this. We can have a decent and lawful society, show sincere care for human needs, fight the cruelty of crime and corruption, and even give honest people a path to U.S. citizenship --- a path that starts back in Tegucigalpa or Michoacan --- all under the patronage of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

We're not wrong for wanting to do it right.

8 posted on 12/07/2007 2:20:57 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Senora de Guadalupe, ayudanos.)
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To: Coleus
Ummm... I think the message was come to Tepeyac, not the reverse.


9 posted on 12/07/2007 2:30:17 PM PST by AliVeritas (CNN: Pravda, only dumber.)
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I don't know if this fits here, but the anti-immigration sentiments are disturbing. I've felt that leftwing agitators targeting immigrants, and it is their escapades that make the headlines. Almost all Mexican immigrants I've met on the east coast are decent people who work hard and have a picture of Our Lady of Guadalupe somewhere conspicuous.

I believe that Our Lady of Guadalupe has very special intentions for these people, and that, as "immigration waves" go, they may be the best thing that happened to America in some time.

The Blessed Mother is after all Patroness of the Americas. And I am very grateful for that. I trust her protection.

10 posted on 12/07/2007 3:11:06 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (hillary clinton is vladimir putin in drag.)
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Our Lady of Guadalupe - December 12DEVOTIONAL PRAYER TO OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE

O Virgin Mother of Guadalupe, you wanted to show your compassion to all who solicit your help. Hear the petitions we present to you.

Patroness of the Philippines, we pray for peace, justice and prosperity for our country and for all the countries of the world. Mother of fair love, protect our families. Keep them united in love and watch over our children. Put an end to the sacrifice of innocent lives as you did in Mexico.

Mother of the Church, grant us abundant vocations of priests, religious and laity. We pray to you especially for our Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, and all bishops. Grant us a great love for all the sacraments, the signs of God's great mercy.

Thus we will be able to bring all, true peace through Our Lord Jesus Christ, who with God the Father and the Holy Spirit, lives and reign forever and ever.

                                                            Amen.


18 posted on 12/07/2007 8:10:06 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Hernándo Cortés and Our Lady

Scientists certify Our Lady of Guadalupe tilma

STRANGE LIGHT CLAIMED IN GUADALUPE IMAGE AFTER MEXICO CITY OKAYED ABORTION

STRANGE LIGHT CLAIMED IN GUADALUPE IMAGE AFTER MEXICO CITY OKAYED ABORTION -- posted on News Forum

The Story of Guadalupe: Hope for Our Violent World

Our Lady of Guadalupe: Protectress of the Unborn

Was Our Lady of Guadalupe Wrong?

A Novena to Our Lady of Guadalupe

Relic From Guadalupe Tilma to Tour U.S.

The Amazing Truth of Our Lady of Guadalupe

Our Lady Of Guadalupe

Celebrating 470 years of an ongoing miracle, the apparition of Our Lady of Guadalupe 1531

Science Stunned by Virgin of Guadalupe´s Eyes

OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE [Read only]

19 posted on 12/07/2007 8:14:07 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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This article is indicative of exactly why I don’t have a devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe. I really abhor the notion that every illegal that has an Our Lady of Guadalupe sticker on the back of their truck is a great person. Perhaps that’s the cynicism of living in Houston speaking, but it’s the reality here in town.

It’s a fashion statement on the young women here and a car adornment for the men. I don’t see it as a devotion in many of the Hispanics here in town, so much as a “La Raza” statement.


20 posted on 12/07/2007 9:26:54 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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***Thousands of Catholics from throughout the greater Los Angeles area gathered in East Los Angeles Dec. 2 to honor Our Lady of Guadalupe***

Dec. 2 is not even the right day for Our Lady of Guadalupe - it’s the 12th! I guess someone got mixed up...


23 posted on 12/08/2007 7:32:00 AM PST by nanetteclaret ("I will sing praise to my God while I have my being." Psalm 104:33b)
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