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Posted on 11/25/2007 4:20:14 AM PST by Gamecock
It was long ago, two thousand years, when sweet baby Jesus was born. Although every baby is cherished by his parents and grandparents and siblings and cousins, this little boy was precious to all the world. The story began in Nazareth…
The Old Testament patriarch Noah, who had died long ago and been resurrected as an angel named Gabriel,1 was sent from God to a city of Galilee, named Nazareth. There he appeared to one of the noblest and greatest of all the spirit offspring of God the Father,2 a young virgin girl whose name--Mary--had been foretold in 124 B.C.3 Mary was betrothed to a man named Joseph, of the house of David.
The angel Gabriel said to Mary, "Hail, you virgin, who are highly favored of the Lord, the Lord is with you: for you are chosen and blessed among women."4 But Mary was troubled and pondered about this salutation. Gabriel told her not to be afraid; she had found favor with God. He said, "Behold, you will conceive and bear a son,5 and shall call his name, in the 'pure language,' Son Ahman.6 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest. And you, Mary, will be the mother of God."7
Mary said to the angel, "How can this be, since I am a virgin?"
Gabriel answered and said, "The Holy Ghost shall come upon you and sanctify you, and make you holy, and prepare you to endure the presence of 'the Highest.'8 Then shall your Heavenly Father, who was your literal father in the pre-existence, overshadow you. For you know that He is a Holy Man and Adam is His name. He is our Father and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do. A personage of flesh and bone, He shall beget this Son in the same manner as Cain and Abel and all the other sons and daughters of Adam and Eve were begotten.9 The Christ Child shall be the result of 'natural action'--flesh and blood, begotten of his Father as we were of our fathers.10 A miracle--though not in violation of natural law--the literal offspring of this 'celestial Sireship'11 shall be called the 'Only Begotten Son of God in the flesh.'"12
Mary was concerned because of her betrothal to Joseph. The angel explained, "You and the Father will associate together in the capacity of Husband and Wife; hence, you will be, for at least a time, the lawful wife of God the Father. After He is finished with you, the Father will give you to Joseph. God will be your first husband.13 Then shall it be said, 'The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not, that we know of, have more than one wife, but Mary the wife of Joseph had another husband.'"14
And Mary said, "Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her.
Before Mary and Joseph came together Mary was found to be with child by God the Father. Joseph, not wanting Mary to be disgraced, planned to 'divorce' her quietly. But an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a vision15 and said, "Do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for that which has been conceived in her, while it was not done without the aid of Man, that Man was God!16 And she will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for it is He who will, by his perfect example, show the people how to fulfill the plan of salvation."17 Now all this took place that what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled, saying, "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which translated means, "A God with us."18 The angel said, "Mary will still be called a virgin both before and after she gives birth19 because the Father of her child is immortal."20 Therefore, Joseph did as the angel of the Lord commanded him.
It came about in those days that Caesar Augustus required a census be taken of all the earth and everyone was proceeding to each their own city to register. Joseph and Mary journeyed together to the land of Jerusalem,21 to the city of Bethlehem, in order to fulfill the requirement.
While they were at Jerusalem, on the 6th day of April,22 it was time for Mary's baby to be born. She gave birth to her firstborn son, who had been her elder brother in the pre-existence,23 and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was none to give room for them in the inns.24
Now, this was the second birth of Jesus, for He was already the firstborn spirit child of Heavenly Parents.25 He had attained unto the status of Godhood while yet in the premortal existence.26 Whereas, at the time of His mortal birth Jesus was no longer an infant spirit, it was necessary that His spirit be compressed, or diminished in size, so He could be enclosed in His infant body.27 As a result, Jesus forgot everything about His former life.28 Nevertheless, He was the Son of God and the sign which had been promised came to pass: the sun set in America on the night of Christ's birth, but there was no darkness; it was light as though it was mid-day even until the rising of the sun the next morning.29
But around Jerusalem/Bethlehem it was dark and there were some shepherds out in the fields keeping night watch over their flock. An angel of the Lord appeared to them causing them to be very frightened. The shepherds desired to determine what manner of being this was, therefore they requested he shake hands. For they knew they would feel the flesh and bone of a true angel's hand; if they could not feel it they would know he was the devil posing as an angel of light.30 Thereby detecting that this was a messenger from God, the shepherds allowed the angel to proceed.
And the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which shall be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you the God of this world.31 He will be called 'the Prince of Peace, who is also the Prince of Glory and the Prince of Eternal Progress.'32 He will atone for the sins of all mankind in the Garden of Gethsemane,33 and through His gift will come resurrection for the dead for all, and a greater and more enlarged opportunity for eternal life for those who will walk in obedience to His commandments.34 And no one will do a greater work than Jesus until the advent of the Prophet Joseph Smith.35 But take care that you not be led astray. For the time will come when much that is believed and taught about the cleansing power of Christ's blood will be such utter nonsense and so palpably false that to believe it will be to lose your salvation. In that day many will believe or pretend to believe that if we confess Christ with our lips and avow that we accept Him as our personal Savior, we will thereby be saved. They will say that His blood, without any other act than mere belief, makes us clean.36 Be not deceived. Each of you will have to work very hard to qualify for your eternal potential."37 Suddenly there appeared a heavenly host of persons who had been resurrected from the dead38 praising God, and saying, "Glory to God in the highest." And it came to pass when the angels had gone away that the shepherds hastily found their way to Mary and Joseph, and the Christ Child as He lay in the manger. When they had seen this, they made known everything which had been revealed to them about the babe. And all who heard it wondered at the things which were told them by the shepherds.
Dear reader, what child is this?
The LDS Christmas Story was gathered and compiled from the teachings of Mormon Church leaders. It speaks of a Father and Son who are not found in the Biblical narrative of Christ's birth. It brings the sad news that our salvation depends upon our own righteousness instead of the perfect righteousness of Jesus. The gift God gave that night, according to the LDS Christmas story, provided resurrection to judgement for all the world and an example to follow in order to make oneself worthy of the highest heaven.
Yet God tells a different story. He says it is impossible for us to be worthy of heaven on our own merit; all have sinned and our righteousness is as filthy rags before Him. But the blessed Gift God gave to us on that marvelous holy night was no less than His Promise fulfilled. Jesus Christ--God incarnate--had come, not to show us the way, but to be the Way. He came to a world dead in sin to give us life eternal. Let all who are alive in Christ echo Mary's song, "My spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior."
Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!
1. Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 157 2. Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 471 3. Book of Mormon, Mosiah 3:8 4. Joseph Smith Translation (hereafter JST), Luke 1:28 5. JST, Luke 1:31-32 6. Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses (hereafter JD), 2:342 7. Book of Mormon, 1 Ne. 11:18, 1830 edition, p. 25 8. O. Pratt, The Seer, Washington D.C. edition, p. 158 9. Brigham Young, JD, 1:50-51. Though Young taught the Adam/God doctrine, the LDS Church officially denies it. It is not currently part of LDS theology. 10. B. Young, JD, 8:115 11. James E. Talmage, Jesus the Christ, p. 81 12. Gordon B. Hinckley, The Ensign, 12/94, p. 4 13. O. Pratt, The Seer, p. 158 14. B. Young, JD, 11:268 15. JST Matthew 1:20 16. Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 1:18 17. Uniform System for Teaching the Gospel, p. 1-6 18. LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 681, "God." 19. The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 7 20. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 822 21. Book of Mormon, Alma 7:10 22. Talmage, Jesus the Christ, p. 104; see JD 13:127 for Pratt's calculated date of April 11. 23. Victor L. Ludlow, Principles and Practices of the Restored Gospel, p. 43 24. JST Luke 2:7 25. O. Pratt, JD, 18:290 26. What the Mormons Think of Christ, Pamphlet published by the LDS Church, 1976, p. 25 27. O. Pratt, JD, 16:334 28. Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 1:33 29. Book of Mormon, 3 Nephi 1:19 30. Doctrine & Covenants 129 31. Ezra Taft Benson, quoted by Gordon B. Hinckley, The Ensign, 5/92, p. 89 32. Howard W. Hunter, The Ensign, 2/95, p. 77 33. Gospel Principles, 1988, p. 58. Current LDS teaching suggests the atonement was accomplished in both the Garden and on Calvary. 34. Gordon B. Hinckley, Church News, 7/1/95, p. 4 35. Joseph Smith, History of the Church, 6:408-9 36. What the Mormons Think of Christ, pp. 19-20 37. James E. Faust, The Ensign, 11/95, p. 46 38. LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 608, "Angels."
I, for one, would be interested in seeing what in the article you find to be blanket errors. I am not asking for you to show why, just that you point out what is wrong. Although I didn't read through the entire article, I did see that it was well documented with mormon sources. If you wish to freepmail me that is fine. No, I am not going to change my mind, but I am interested in what you find wrong in the article and what you find right concerning mormon beliefs.
To those of you who constantly trash the Mormon faith and its founders, shame on you. If you are examples of the Christians you claim Mormons are not, perhaps it is better not to be considered Christians....what I and millions of others consider sacred.
I realize that mormons hold these things as sacred in their view as do others hold the teachings of their other faiths (Buddhism, muslim, Jehovah Witnesses, etc). They don't pretend they are true followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, they do not call themselves true Christians and then proceed to to spout things that are antibiblical. And all must admit there are many many things taught in mormonism that are directly against the bible. There just are. And so, mormonims cannot be Christian.
What is the difference between people who call themselves Christian then act like pagans and worse; and those who call themselves Christian but want to negate the character of God? Don't forget the second group started about vehemently denying they were Christian. What is the difference? I don't see that there is a difference because neither are true believers. The second are just in an "oh, it is much more PC and we can get farther with the Good Shepherd's sheep if we put on sheep's clothing.
Uh... we REALLY can't 'show' any thing; we merely make assertions and then ask folks to PRAY about them.
Some small number will get a 'yes' while the most willl get a 'no'.
We win.
--MormonDude(one who got a definite yes! [ I think] )
Why not??
Your religion is FOUNDED on this very precept!
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
AVOID the TarBaby!
Stay on topic!
Oh?
See above...
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Disney stopped showing ‘Song of the South’ because of it’s offensive nature. Please stop using it.
So...... in the POV of the LDS, Mary had sex with her Father. Jesus is the result??
I will not.
It quite simply shows a VERY good point!
Disney 'stopped' because of Politcal Corretness'; the very ant-thesis of FreeRepublic!!
Congratulations on omitting all of the LDS scriptures, including the Old Testament and the New Testament. You are a promoter of lies.
Are you one of those southern protestant slavers?
Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal!
Perhaps I should have phrased the question”Are you a member of one of the southern protestant churches that supported slavery?”
Please see if you think Elsie’s offensive words toward blacks should be corrected.
Do not accuse another Freeper of promoting lies - that is “making it personal.”
Which post number?
If you’re referring to the term “tarbaby”, I believe Romney himself used it. It is not a racist term, imho.
Which post number?
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64, 68, and 70
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/31/politics/main1851199.shtml
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