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A Catholic Church (in Venice Italy) Turns Into A Mosque (each Friday) 
Mangalorean ^ | November 11, 2007 | Fr. Chetan, Capuchin, Rome

Posted on 11/12/2007 10:30:07 AM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 11/12/2007 10:30:08 AM PST by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Don Aldo needs some serious re-education on ecumenism.


2 posted on 11/12/2007 10:31:31 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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"Please kick our asses"
3 posted on 11/12/2007 10:34:03 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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Perhaps what really needs to happen is a solid, clear Papal statement regarding what ecumenicalism really should accomplish.

It is said that the Catholics and the Muslim worship the same God. Does this mean they can worship in the same church? Does this mean the Muslim and Catholic are brothers in faith? We know the answer, but some in the RCC seem to be missing the clear answer.

As long as it is left up in the air, the more of this thing will happen. The more this happens, the faster the change will occur, until it will either force a schism or it will cause a Jihad. Well, the Jihad is coming, but the question is how many Muslim converts from the RCC will be part of it.


4 posted on 11/12/2007 10:38:26 AM PST by Ottofire (For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God)
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Wouldn’t this constitute a profane use of the church?


5 posted on 11/12/2007 10:47:19 AM PST by trimom
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“It’s useless to speak of religious dialogue and then bang the door on their face. Pope John Paul II addressed them as, ‘dear Muslim brothers’. How can we close our church doors to them?”

My Italian is not so good - but I think this loosely translated means: “We are afraid of these Mother F’ers and don’t wanna no trouble.”


6 posted on 11/12/2007 10:51:24 AM PST by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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A Catholic Church (in Venice Italy) Turns Into A Mosque (each Friday)

Poor priests everywhere are losing their minds. They are in complete control of our churches and buildings and they are making a mocking sacrilege of them. They did not build these churches; they should not have so much control over them.

About a year ago, I read that Cardinal Maida (Detroit) was handing over a beautiful church named St. Therese to Muslims. I called to complain and of course a woman responded. She said, "There will be prayer there." I said, "but they are not praying to Jesus. It is like you are denying Jesus." Of course the Spokeswoman could care less what I thought about anything.

Many of our beautiful churches were built by immigrants that worked all day and then worked all evening building the churches. Now the priests and bishops are just wrecking, selling, and desecrating these beautiful churches and the Vatican could care less.

7 posted on 11/12/2007 10:56:57 AM PST by GinaLolaB
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Soon they’ll be asking for storage space for their chemistry sets...


8 posted on 11/12/2007 11:02:42 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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You can bet that these priests and bishops are the most liberal of the liberal and they hate the Pope. But one of them in Italy (really opposed to the Tridentine Rite, btw) recently got his knuckles rapped and the nut in Belgium (who was in favor of condoms and referring to God as Allah) was given an early retirement. The problem is that JPII let them get away with this stuff and in addition his own “ecumenism” sometimes seemed a little loosey-goosey.

And of course, the less said about Cdl Maida, the better. When does he retire?


9 posted on 11/12/2007 11:15:22 AM PST by livius
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The population of Venice sure must have changed since my visit 30 years ago.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 11/12/2007 11:20:43 AM PST by ml/nj
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So, will he also allow in Satan-worshippers? Aside from the “Muslim” ones, of course....


11 posted on 11/12/2007 11:32:35 AM PST by Master Shake
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...For the rest, I am older than the bishop and been his professor in the seminary too. Even if had prohibited me, I wouldn't be obliged to obey him," Don Aldo is firm in his resolve.

Ya know, somehow when I was learning the Catholic Faith Monsignor Gatta failed to tell me obedience was based on age. Somehow he passed on the crazy idea that obedience was based on the authority of the person being obeyed.
12 posted on 11/12/2007 11:35:21 AM PST by Talking_Mouse (O Lord, destroy Islam by converting the Muslims to Christianity.)
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"...demands Luca Zaia, the vice president of the Federation of a few right wing politicians..."

A little slant there?

I wonder who's the President of the Federation of a Few Right Wing Politicians?

13 posted on 11/12/2007 11:57:36 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Join the FFRWP.)
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I wonder who's the President of the Federation of a Few Right Wing Politicians?

Nicholas Sarkozy?

I have to say, the pictures look like they're holding the Moslem prayer service in a school cafeteria, not a church.

14 posted on 11/12/2007 3:03:01 PM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: ml/nj; GinaLolaB; trimom; Ottofire; Mrs. Don-o
The population of Venice sure must have changed since my visit 30 years ago.

Around that time, I worked for an airline and traveled frequently to Italy to visit family. Already then, the country had socialized medicine (there was a 25% VAT tax on all purchases to pay for it), had gone "green" (il verde e tuo, protegge lo) and reduced their offspring to 2 at best. The cost of living skyrocketed necessitating two working parents and daycare centers sprung up. The Italian education system invested heavily in these children to encourage them to pursue medicine, law and engineering. As a result, there are now few workers in the country willing to do menial jobs. The solution? Import workers from Africa and the Middle East.

That was 30 years ago! One can't help but see a similar pattern emerging in this country. Not far from where I live in upstate NY, a 2 minaret mosque is under construction. Perhaps it's time to walk a pig across the field which happens to be adjacent to a Knights of Columbus Hall.

15 posted on 11/12/2007 3:03:02 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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I have to say, the pictures look like they're holding the Moslem prayer service in a school cafeteria, not a church.

One of their "new age" cathedrals ;-) Perhaps this is why some of the liberal bishops have chosen to build or wreckovate their older churches, replacing carved wooden pews with folding chairs.

16 posted on 11/12/2007 3:09:36 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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I think it’s a cafeteria. Or a “multi-purpose meeting facility,” such as my parish uses while we try to get the Environmental Services Administration to let us build a church.


17 posted on 11/12/2007 3:13:17 PM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: trimom; NYer

If this is in the church itself with the Blessed Sacrament present, there is absolutely no question it is “profane” as you say, actually I’d more specifically call it sacrilege. But from the picture and some ambiguous phrases in the article referring to the “hall” and “kitchen” and some “little” area, maybe the priest is not allowing them to use the church proper, but a meeting room? That would still be questionable, of course, but at least not a sacrilege.


18 posted on 11/12/2007 3:19:37 PM PST by baa39
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http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/articles.cfm?id=177

Pacifists, Ecologists and Ecumenists: Antichrist at Work

“The retired Archbishop of Bologna, Cardinal Giacomo Biffi, says the Antichrist presents himself as a “pacifist, ecologist, and ecumenist.” “

beware of false ecumenism!!!!


19 posted on 11/12/2007 3:21:34 PM PST by rogernz
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To: trimom

no more than Yankee stadium being used for baseball when the Pope isn’t conducting mass there...just kidding...

I’m not RCC and I find this very sad...I can’t imagine allowing any other Christian group use our sanctuary let alone a non Christian group...yikes! I pray that this changes asap...


20 posted on 11/12/2007 5:16:30 PM PST by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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