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To: Gamecock
You know, our church is probably one of the most conservative churches around. I find it strange that people spend so much time on here trying to run down a church that teaches hard work, independence and service to your fellow man (and yes military service). I thought this was a political forum.

Anything can be explained to sound like the stupidest idea ever if you want to explain it that way. I’m not going to attempt to explain any of it here because its not the time or place.

I guess my point is that we don't just sit around church talking down others and I don't understand the hate. You guys act like a bunch of missionaries rode their bikes up to the airport and hijacked the planes on 9/11. Wrong religion guys. Just ask yourself why you are so busy doing this when we should be encouraging everyone to hold to the conservative movement.

And no, I am not planning to vote for Mitt in the primary because he isn't conservative enough. If he is the one that gets picked though, I’ll vote for him over anything with a D behind their name any day.

8 posted on 11/10/2007 9:01:35 AM PST by Michael Knight (Get off my back government!)
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To: Michael Knight; P-Marlowe
You know, our church is probably one of the most conservative churches around. I find it strange that people spend so much time on here trying to run down a church that teaches hard work, independence and service to your fellow man (and yes military service).

No one doubts that Mormons aren't politically and socially conservative.

Are you capable of becoming god? That is the point of this thread.

I thought this was a political forum.

FWIW, this was posted in the Religion Section. If you want to discuss politics, go back to News/Activism or any of the other "political" sections.

So, can you become god?

9 posted on 11/10/2007 9:07:44 AM PST by Gamecock (Gamecock: Declared anathema by the Council of Trent!)
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To: Michael Knight
Dear Michael Knight,

“I find it strange that people spend so much time on here trying to run down a church that teaches hard work, independence and service to your fellow man (and yes military service). I thought this was a political forum.”

Although Free Republic is a political forum, the RELIGION Forum on Free Republic is a place where theological matters are routinely discussed, with the permission and acceptance of Free Republic’s management. Discussing the theology of this or that religion is a perfectly acceptable practice herein.

And bringing it up is really just a way on your part to change the subject.

The subject of this thread is whether members of the LDS believe that God was “once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!”

If so, then the LDS organization is at complete odds with all those who worship the God revealed to Moses, at odds not merely with all Christians, but with all Jews (to whom the initial Divine Revelation was originally given), and even to all Muslims.

“You guys act like a bunch of missionaries rode their bikes up to the airport and hijacked the planes on 9/11. Wrong religion guys.”

Again, you’re changing the subject. Myself, I’ve known more than a couple of LDS folks in my life, and have pretty much liked and respected them all.

Nonetheless, the bottom line is that I believe that the foundation of LDS theology is entirely false, a false prophecy by a false prophet. I don’t believe that members of the LDS are Christians. I don’t believe that LDS baptism is valid, that it actually brings a person into the life of grace, into the family of God, into a real, ontological relationship with Jesus Christ.

This is because the being identified as "God" by the LDS is not ontologically the same being identified by all Christians, Jews, and Muslims as God.

And that’s the subject of this thread.


sitetest

10 posted on 11/10/2007 9:15:43 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Michael Knight

Paul told Timothy to “command certain men not to teach false doctrines...” (Is that “hate” or standing up for the truth?):

1 Timothy 1:3-7

“3As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer 4nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God’s work—which is by faith. 5The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6Some have wandered away from these and turned to meaningless talk. 7They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.”

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We are also urged to “contend for the faith,” so we and fellow belivers will not be deceived by false doctrines:

Jude 3-4

“3Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. 4For certain men whose condemnation was written about[b] long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. “


16 posted on 11/10/2007 9:32:33 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: Michael Knight

We have a Religion Forum here on Free Republic so that religious issues can be discussed.

Over the years, the protocol and manners for the Forum have developed into a pretty fair discussion room.

Please stay for the conversations!!!


24 posted on 11/10/2007 10:40:22 AM PST by fishtank ("Patriotic Nationalism?" - YES!!!....."Globalist Multiculturalism?" - NO!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: Michael Knight; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; aMorePerfectUnion; Revelation 911; Colofornian; ...
"Anything can be explained to sound like the stupidest idea ever if you want to explain it that way." That such sincere people believe these heretical teachings is far from being about making something sound stupid.

Satan wants people to ridicule the idea of his existence and ignore his heretical inveiglings. Opposition to Mormonism is all about eternal destiny. A true spiritually alive serving Christian is acutely interested in the fate of those caught in heretical teachings. And all the more when one sees such sincere, conservative, loving people perishing.

38 posted on 11/10/2007 12:50:28 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Michael Knight
I find it strange that people spend so much time on here trying to run down a church that teaches hard work, independence and service to your fellow man (and yes military service). I thought this was a political forum.

And I find it strange that folks who are looking for a political discussion, infer that their church is the only one that...

" teaches hard work, independence and service to your fellow man ".

69 posted on 11/11/2007 5:29:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Michael Knight
You know, our church is probably one of the most conservative churches around. I find it strange that people spend so much time on here trying to run down a church that teaches hard work, independence and service to your fellow man (and yes military service). I thought this was a political forum.

A witch covent might decide to teach the same things. That is only a little strange but when they also start calling themselves a Christian Witch coven then I know they are deceivers. At that point it becomes pretty hard to believe their hard work, independence service and military teachings too.

94 posted on 11/12/2007 2:04:01 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Al Gore, the Jessie Jackson of weather.)
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To: Michael Knight
I guess my point is that we don't just sit around church talking down others and I don't understand the hate.

I guess you've not read much written by J. Smith, and B. Young then....

Talk about "hate."

101 posted on 11/13/2007 11:00:39 AM PST by Osage Orange (If you draw a gun, be prepared to fire it. And if you shoot someone, shoot to kill.)
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