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Saint Malachy, Prophecies about 112 popes until the end of the world, the last five Popes
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Posted on 10/14/2007 8:25:58 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: nanetteclaret
Would you please clarify for all on this thread what you mean by the phrase “whoring church?” I want to make sure that we all know exactly what you mean.

The Scripture often used the image of whores/prostitutes to depict the people of God when they strayed from the truth of His revelation and began to worship under their own imaginations. You can see this in places like Ezekiel chapters 16 and 23 and Revelation 17. Israel played the harlot by leaving the true worship of God and setting up idols after their own self-absorbed vanities.

When the patriarchs of the Roman system abandoned the simple, true worship of God revealed in Holy Scripture and invented a new system under the pretext of magisterial authority, they became the harlot in no less fashion that ancient Israel.

The Reformation was all about calling the Church to abandon her harlotries and return the faith of the Apostles. This they have refused to do, preferring instead to call the faithful in other denominations less than truly Christian.

Thankfully, it is not too late for your prelates to reform their system. They just need the will to do so and the unction of the Holy Spirit, Who is now far from them.

41 posted on 10/15/2007 10:14:37 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: topcat54
When the patriarchs of the Roman system abandoned the simple, true worship of God revealed in Holy Scripture and invented a new system

Again, your point is based on falsehood. The Liturgy is of apostolic age.

So, again your point (whatever it is) is worthless.

42 posted on 10/15/2007 10:20:08 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Again, your point is based on falsehood. The Liturgy is of apostolic age.

You can believe that is you wish, but the fact is there is no evidence to suggest that the apostles or early century Christians would have recognized the medieval-modern blasphemy known as the Roman Mass.

43 posted on 10/15/2007 10:25:27 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: topcat54

It’s of a certainty that they wouldn’t recognise (as Christian) the modernist heresy that is protestantism. Indeed, they would recoil in horror at the self-so-called “reformation”.


44 posted on 10/15/2007 10:28:13 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard; Dominick
the modernist heresy that is protestantism

Any complaints, Dominick? No? Didn't think so.

45 posted on 10/15/2007 10:31:00 AM PDT by Glenmerle
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To: topcat54
You can believe that is you wish, but the fact is there is no evidence to suggest that the apostles or early century Christians would have recognized the medieval-modern blasphemy known as the Roman Mass.

Nonsense.

There's plenty of evidence that Trent merely codified existing Roman usage that goes back to the early 5th Century. There's little or nothing "medieval" about it. The Byzantine Rite is of similar antiquity.

Read this for an even earlier view of Roman liturgy.

46 posted on 10/15/2007 10:37:42 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Glenmerle

Get ALL of “topcat’s” comments about whoring and blasphemy zotted (note post 26 and post 43, among others) and I’ll be happy to see post 44 get zotted, too.


47 posted on 10/15/2007 10:38:02 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Glenmerle

What?

No complaints about #26 and #43?

No?

didn’t think so.


48 posted on 10/15/2007 10:40:32 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: topcat54
You can believe that is you wish, but the fact is there is no evidence to suggest that the apostles or early century Christians would have recognized the medieval-modern blasphemy known as the Roman Mass.

Oh, do tell. What's blasphemous about it?

49 posted on 10/15/2007 10:41:52 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Get ALL of “topcat’s” comments about whoring and blasphemy zotted (note post 26 and post 43, among others) and I’ll be happy to see post 44 get zotted, too.

I'm not interested in zotting anyone's posts, Dominick is. Talk to him/her. Apparently on this forum it's not OK to use the word "whoring" (which as far as I know isn't a banned word on FR) in reference to Catholics but it's OK to say essentially the same thing to Protestants. Sheer hypocrisy.

50 posted on 10/15/2007 10:42:02 AM PDT by Glenmerle
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To: ArrogantBustard
No complaints about #26 and #43?

Read before you post. I do have a problem with the word "whoring" in this context.

51 posted on 10/15/2007 10:43:47 AM PDT by Glenmerle
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To: Glenmerle
but it's OK to say essentially the same thing to Protestants. Sheer hypocrisy.

Essentially the same thing? Would you rather your mother were called a "heretic" or a "whore"? If it takes more than a few seconds to figure it out, don't bother responding.

52 posted on 10/15/2007 10:45:08 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: topcat54
They just need the will to do so and the unction of the Holy Spirit, Who is now far from them.

Chapter, verse?

53 posted on 10/15/2007 10:47:20 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Essentially the same thing? Would you rather your mother were called a "heretic" or a "whore"? If it takes more than a few seconds to figure it out, don't bother responding.

Gosh, is it OK if I respond? Gee, I hope so.

Maybe you're just sensitive to the word "whore," but I see no real difference between "heretic" and "whore" in this context. In fact, I think "heretic" may be worse. Calling someone's religion a heresy is extremely harsh, don't you think?

54 posted on 10/15/2007 10:49:02 AM PDT by Glenmerle
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To: topcat54
When the patriarchs of the Roman system abandoned the simple, true worship of God revealed in Holy Scripture and invented a new system under the pretext of magisterial authority, they became the harlot in no less fashion that ancient Israel.

What is the simple, true worship of God as revealed in Holy Scripture? Come on now, you have all the answers at your fingertips. Don't disappoint.

55 posted on 10/15/2007 10:50:09 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Coyoteman

I understood that you did not like purely religious discussions. Did I get that wrong?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1907570/posts?page=175#175


56 posted on 10/15/2007 10:50:58 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: topcat54; Salvation; Coyoteman
Remember the Inquisition.

You should have said, "end of the 7-Hilled, Mystery Babylon" system.

As a matter of fact, Malacy says it himself at the end of the article leading this thread: "after which the seven hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people."

57 posted on 10/15/2007 10:54:41 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: topcat54; nanetteclaret; Glenmerle; Dominick; Rutles4Ever; ArrogantBustard; All
Offending posts 17 and 26 were removed because they serve no purpose other than to stir up hatred.

The words "whore" and "harlot" are not banned on the Religion Forum. But when you use the words on the Religion Forum it had better be academic and/or in reference to a passage from the Bible.

Using such words to characterize another confession is hate mongering per se - on the order of Jack Chick - and will not be tolerated.

There will no further warnings - this thread is on zero tolerance.

58 posted on 10/15/2007 10:59:32 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
I do hope you check future Religion forum posts for content -- not just particular words. I'd be happy to point out nasty posts.
59 posted on 10/15/2007 11:01:27 AM PDT by Glenmerle
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To: Glenmerle; topcat54
Calling someone's religion a heresy is extremely harsh, don't you think?

Heresy is a verfiable accusation. It's a word that has an actual religious or theological connotation. "Whoring" is being employed as imagery of societal pondscum (as it were) to personify our holy mother Church. Given the context of the "Whore of Babylon", Topcat is calling us in league with Satan. If Topcat needs a Thesaurus, there are plenty of online resources. Using the word "whore" is intellectually lazy and designed to shock, not make efficacious.

60 posted on 10/15/2007 11:06:51 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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