San Francisco Archbishop Responds After Caught on Video Giving Communion to Gay Men Dressed as Nuns

LifeSiteNews ^ | 10/10/07 | John-Henry Westen

[wagglebee]

This is totally unacceptable, Nierderauer needs to be removed IMMEDIATELY!

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[Kolokotronis]

More of the stinking rot of heresy! The Latins, it seems, are playing catch up with the Episcopagans! Has this heresiarch no concept of what the Eucharist is and what the consequences are for those who receive unworthily?

[rawcatslyentist]

There aint gonna be nothing but a smoking crater left this time. Either that or G*D owes S&G an apology!

[Clock King]

I'm not Catholic, but I honestly don't understand why the Church doesn't start excommunicating these people. They obviously don't believe in anything in the Bible, and they mock the values of Church at every chance they get. "Go and sin some more"? Such a person does not believe in Christ, it's obvious. Maybe Jesus wants us to try to keep reaching out to these lost souls. One day they may be saved, but I'd really have to pray for super-strength to deal with these people.

[wagglebee]

I honestly don't understand why the Church doesn't start excommunicating these people.

A whole lot of us have been wondering the same thing for a long time.

[Dante3]

Weird.

[madprof98]

This is the same archbishop who said he didn’t know Nancy Pelosi was in favor of abortion.

[NYer]

This story is running rampant all over the blogosphere today. Someone emailed me the story early this morning. It left me cold and empty. On the one hand, one can justify the Archbishop's appearance at such an event by likening it to our Lord's acceptance of the invitation to dine with the tax collector and his friends. The BIG difference, however, is that our Lord grabbed the moment and used it as a teaching opportunity. Tha did not happen in this case.

3 years ago, during Lent, I turned off the nightly news. The gap was filled with prayers, Scripture readings and reflection on God's mysteries. Even now, in this forum, scandalous stories such as this draw us like moths to the flame. I have chosen to avoid these 'rare' (and that is what they are) events while focusing on the more positive ones.

Thank you for the ping and your comments.

[vox_freedom]

Weird.

Excuse me, but this is worse than "weird."
It is repulsive, blasphemous, and a scandal to use three more appropriate terms.

[vox_freedom]

Weird.

Excuse me, but this is worse than "weird."
It is repulsive, blasphemous, and a scandal to use three more appropriate terms.

[murphE]

Crisis in the Church? What crisis in the Church?

[DocRock]

Sodom and Gomorrah

[HoosierHawk]

Even now, in this forum, scandalous stories such as this draw us like moths to the flame. I have chosen to avoid these 'rare' (and that is what they are) events while focusing on the more positive ones.

Nyer,

Yes, these incidents are rare. But when they are brought to light, non-believers are also drawn like moths. The non-believer sees the hypocrisy of the Church as immorality within the Church. Boston comes to mind.

I'm not a Catholic, and I wouldn't dare write to you as one. But we are admonished to expel the evil-doers from our Church. They erode its foundation by destroying the testimony of those who claim to have dedicated their lives to Christ.

While I commend your position on focusing on the positive, (and I think most Christians do), there may be some on your ping list who wish to take a more active role. Maybe not.

With respect,

HH

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A whole lot of us have been wondering the same thing for a long time.

[Frank Sheed]

The Latins, it seems, are playing catch up with the Episcopagans!

Do I detect triumphalism? Maybe just use the term "Papist" or "Romanist" instead of the ever so subtle, Latinist, my Orthodox Brother.

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone..."

In Christ Jesus,
Frank

[Kolokotronis]

“Do I detect triumphalism? Maybe just use the term “Papist” or “Romanist” instead of the ever so subtle, Latinist, my Orthodox Brother.”

FS, no triumphalism. I don’t really know what else to call you guys. I suppose I could have said “The Roman Catholics”. “Latins” is quicker.

But here’s the problem, FS. The Roman Church wants reunion with Orthodoxy while tolerating this sort of behavior. Your bishops argue about giving communion to abortion supporting politicians but hand it out to active gays and straight people living together without the benefit of clergy and then refuse it to people who get divorced and remarried. We’re not perfect, but our priests, I’ll suggest, have a more refined sense of their obligations to both the Holy Eucharist and potential communicants than yours do. I don’t know why this has happened since it wasn’t true when I was a kid, but it certainly is now. Every Sunday our priests make an announcement about who can approach for communion. If someone known to be living a life style contrary to the teachings of The Church, they are refused communion, publicly. That’s the way it should be.

Now you tell me FS, why should any faithful Orthodox Christian want anything to do with reunion with an organization which tolerates this behavior from one of its hierarchs?

[Wheee The People]

Toward the end of the Communion line two strangely dressed persons came to receive Communion. I did not see any mock religious garb. As I recall, one of them wore a large flowered hat or garland."

Mustache? She had a mustache?