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When is the Church going to come down on these apostate colleges?
1 posted on 09/29/2007 9:19:19 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 09/29/2007 9:20:02 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 09/29/2007 9:20:22 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Thanks, sending it out.


4 posted on 09/29/2007 10:36:51 AM PDT by AliVeritas ("And set me down int he midst of the valley which was full of bones." Ezek. 37)
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To: wagglebee

The Jesuits are the liberal wing of the Catholic Church, and they are classic cafeteria Catholics. The Jesuit high school in our area celebrated the Homosexual Day of Silence. The Jesuit college in our area has allowed for homosexual clubs to promote homosexuality. In a psychology class there, the professor said the most balanced male is one that is bisexual. I read about a Jesuit college in Maryland, and a girl was saying the environment leaves you feeling that you have no choice but to be promicuous there. She said there is a room for “hook ups”. Now this college is promoting birth control and abortion. I wish the Pope would do something about these sects in Catholicism that are teaching things contrary to Catholic values.


5 posted on 09/29/2007 11:01:42 AM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: wagglebee
Right-to-Life Catholics should save their breath - or email space - sending messages to the Bishop (and notice EVERYTHING is filtered through the Chancery guard dog - aka Fr Rocco!).

I wouldn't expect much from that quarter in light of the past record:

New York Times

January 12, 1988

Bishop Sees No Moral Issue If Feeding Ends in Coma Case

By PETER STEINFELS

The Roman Catholic Bishop of Providence, R.I., Louis E. Gelineau, said yesterday that a diocesan official's opinion approving the removal of a feeding tube from a comatose patient ''does not contradict Catholic moral theology.''

The opinion was written at Bishop Gelineau's request by the Rev. Robert J. McManus, vicar of education, who is a member of the diocesan medical ethics commission.

It has been criticized as ''utterly and unquestionably wrong'' by another Catholic theologian, the Rev. Robert Barry, who teaches religious studies at the University of Illinois. A diocesan press officer said abortion foes in the Providence area had expressed concern that Father McManus's view weakened the church's teaching on the protection of life.

A Kind of Precedent

Although Father McManus's opinion in the case of Marcia Gray, a 48-year-old Catholic who has been in a coma since January 1986, is not unprecedented among moral theologians, it is apparently the first time such a viewpoint has been expressed by someone acting in a diocesan capacity.

A growing number of state courts have ruled that such chemical feeding is a means of artificial life support like mechanical respirators, which can be removed.

Bishop Gelineau, in Providence, had asked Father McManus to study the case after Mrs. Gray's husband, H. Glenn Gray, who is seeking to remove a tube supplying food and water to his wife, sought church advice, The Bishop emphasized yesterday that Father McManus's opinion ''in no way supports or condones the practice of euthanasia.''

Mr. Gray, who is a University of Rhode Island professor, has sued the Rhode Island Department of Mental Health, Retardation and Hospitals, which administers the hospital where Mrs. Gray is a patient, to have the feeding tube removed. The case is scheduled to be heard this month by the Federal District Court in Providence.

According to Bishop Gelineau, the church has made no ''definitive statement regarding the need to provide nutrition and hydration to the permanently unconscious person.''

At a news conference, Bishop Gelineau acknowledged that his position supporting Father McManus might differ from the standpoint of other bishops. But Dr. James J. Walter, associate professor of theology at Loyola University, in Chicago, said that Father McManus's opinion appeared to be one held by a ''growing majority'' of Catholic moral theologians. 'Ordinary' vs. 'Extraordinary'

According to Dr. Walter as well as Dr. Lisa Sowle Cahill, professor of theology at Boston College, the terms Father McManus used to examine the issue were traditional ones. Most Catholic theologians ask whether artifically provided nutrition and hydration constitute ''extraordinary'' medical treatment. Such treatment may be suspended if seen as burdensome. On the other hand, ''ordinary'' medical treatment cannot be morally withdrawn.

Dr. Cahill noted that theological foes of removing feeding tubes for the permanently unconscious stress the ''ordinary'' and basic character of food and drink. ''But food and drink is no more basic than air,'' said Dr. Cahill, noting that Catholic theologians have agreed that artificial respirators qualify as ''extraordinary'' treatment and can sometimes be disconnected.

The differences among theologians, Dr. Walter said, depend on whether they look at the medical treatment alone or in relation to the benefit it may give a particular patient. In the case of Mrs. Gray, Father McManus had concluded that the measures ''supplying nutrition and hydration artificially offer no reasonable hope of benefit'' and were therefore ''disproportionate and unduly burdensome.''

Cardinal Ratzinger, who was visiting the USA at the time, weighed in with a very different opinion, as you might guess.

6 posted on 09/29/2007 11:18:44 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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God hears the cry of the preborn innocents and His anger will not be held back by a clerical collar.


12 posted on 09/29/2007 6:33:57 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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...and they wonder why last week, I did not put any money in the collection for Catholic University.


14 posted on 09/30/2007 5:20:34 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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16 posted on 09/30/2007 2:05:23 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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17 posted on 09/30/2007 9:29:06 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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I seem to recall that the Jesuits were to elect a new leader in a year or two. I’m hoping that the Pope will be planning to move in his careful and methodical way to start reining in the out of control Society of Jesus.


18 posted on 09/30/2007 10:23:44 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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This is the alma mater of pro-life Supreme Court justice, Clarence Thomas ( who graduated cum laude ).

I don’t think he’ll be giving his alumni donations to this school after this. I know I won’t if it were my school.


19 posted on 10/01/2007 6:43:17 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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When is the Church going to come down on these apostate colleges?

The alumnists of Holy Cross, Georgetown, BC, John Carroll, and perhaps Notre Dame, need to adopt a new Alma mater. Mrs Diago and I graduated from two of these colleges and now send all our money to Christendom College. I just wish it was more.

22 posted on 10/05/2007 9:25:27 PM PDT by Diago (http://www.margaretsanger.blogspot.com/)
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I heard about these kinds of colleges from Mother Angelica.

Catholics should not contribute their money to these colleges.


25 posted on 10/07/2007 10:07:34 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: wagglebee
When is the Church going to come down on these apostate colleges?

Don't hold your breath. The only hope is that Catholic parents refuse to send their kids to these schools. But they won't, for two reasons. First, parents were poorly catechized themselves, and basically see no problem with a Catholic college promoting artificially induced sterility ("birth control"). Second, even if they cared about morality, they're more concerned about their kids' career prospects than they are about their kids' sanctity. We're in a real mess.

26 posted on 10/08/2007 5:20:42 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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When is the Church going to come down on these apostate colleges?


Who cares about a church-—a church that harbors these anti Christian beliefs....Someone else is going to come down on them soon.


29 posted on 10/08/2007 1:55:55 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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Amazing Coincidence: Holy Cross Refers Students to Planned Parenthood

What You Can Do to Stop Planned Parenthood from Coming to Holy Cross college
 
From the Desk of Judie Brown
October 30, 2007


Outrageous Video to Watch; How YOU Can Help

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We visited Holy Cross College and talked with students about Planned Parenthood being on campus.  Watch some of the outrageous reactions
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35 posted on 10/30/2007 6:43:28 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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This is terrible.


40 posted on 10/30/2007 9:19:53 PM PDT by fishhound
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