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To: DelphiUser; MHGinTN; Elsie
Um maybe you have not noticed, but I post with links to the entire bible, you guys Elsie in post #728 and you in post #720 Diamond has not posted a scripture here lately that I even noticed, but these scriptures are totally unlinked, people have to look it up to see what eh context is, I know, from your perspective, you are in context with "their context of the chapter and the entire Bible", but that is only for people who agree with your perspective.

Your argument consists of an insinuation that we misrepresented the verses by taking them out of context. You did not, however, point out exactly how the verses were taken out of context. If they were misrepresented by being taken out of context, pointing out exactly how should have been a very simple matter. Instead, you gave an example of how something in the BOM could be taken out of context. That type of non-response to the substantive issue of who raised Jesus from the dead illustrates exactly what I mean by "cognitive misfiring".

Cordially,

734 posted on 10/17/2007 11:58:09 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Diamond
You said: Your argument consists of an insinuation that we misrepresented the verses by taking them out of context.

Who is we? You have not even posted scriptures on this thread that I am aware of.

Are you announcing some kind of organized effort in which you are cooperating with other posters?

You said: You did not, however, point out exactly how the verses were taken out of context. If they were misrepresented by being taken out of context, pointing out exactly how should have been a very simple matter.

There were a whole Flurry of Posts between MHG and Elsie with Scriptural references, I was trying not to have a monster post by responding to all of them. I have had complaints from other posters, MHGinTN being one of them that my posts are too long to read.

I guess this is another damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, either I respond to it all, and I am to verbose, or I synopsize and am not complete enough, Oh well, I'll let eh lurkers sort it out, they are pretty bright you know.

You said: Instead, you gave an example of how something in the BOM could be taken out of context.

Yep, it was an example from the BOM because I get accused of mis-interpreting the Bible all the time, So I PURPOSEFULLY used the Book of Mormon for my intentional mis-interpretation. ANYTHING can be taken out of context, including posts on FR.

You said: That type of non-response to the substantive issue of who raised Jesus from the dead illustrates exactly what I mean by "cognitive misfiring".

Sorry, I didn't realize I was required to answer an obtusely (my opinion) worded question. My opinion, Jesus Christ resurrects himself by the power of God the Father which as a member of the God head he has. So saying that Jesus does it is correct, and saying that God the Father does it is also correct.

I know this was supposed to "Tie me in knots" but honestly, I did not even stop typing. (except for a bite of my sandwich) God and Jesus are one in ways that most Orthodox christians clearly do not understand while they still have separate bodies.

I keep asking people to pray, here is a good one, how many of the orthodox Christians out there have actually prayed about the Nicene Creed?

Most I talk to don't even read the Bible they say we don't believe, or if they do it is selected portions only. I challenge people to Put our Religion to "the Test" Why not put the Nicene creed to the test, study all that you can about it, praying, read The Bible with the question of the Nicene creed in your mind, then read The Book of Mormon with the same question, and see what God has to say about it all.

Diamond, I am saying to ask God, Are you saying people should or should not ask God, if not, why not?
738 posted on 10/17/2007 1:36:06 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Diamond
You did not, however, point out exactly how the verses were taken out of context.

Kinda like when MY verses were claimed to be 'out of context' but then ignored.

It appears to be standard practice.

743 posted on 10/17/2007 1:42:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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