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To: Diamond
You said: Your argument consists of an insinuation that we misrepresented the verses by taking them out of context.

Who is we? You have not even posted scriptures on this thread that I am aware of.

Are you announcing some kind of organized effort in which you are cooperating with other posters?

You said: You did not, however, point out exactly how the verses were taken out of context. If they were misrepresented by being taken out of context, pointing out exactly how should have been a very simple matter.

There were a whole Flurry of Posts between MHG and Elsie with Scriptural references, I was trying not to have a monster post by responding to all of them. I have had complaints from other posters, MHGinTN being one of them that my posts are too long to read.

I guess this is another damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, either I respond to it all, and I am to verbose, or I synopsize and am not complete enough, Oh well, I'll let eh lurkers sort it out, they are pretty bright you know.

You said: Instead, you gave an example of how something in the BOM could be taken out of context.

Yep, it was an example from the BOM because I get accused of mis-interpreting the Bible all the time, So I PURPOSEFULLY used the Book of Mormon for my intentional mis-interpretation. ANYTHING can be taken out of context, including posts on FR.

You said: That type of non-response to the substantive issue of who raised Jesus from the dead illustrates exactly what I mean by "cognitive misfiring".

Sorry, I didn't realize I was required to answer an obtusely (my opinion) worded question. My opinion, Jesus Christ resurrects himself by the power of God the Father which as a member of the God head he has. So saying that Jesus does it is correct, and saying that God the Father does it is also correct.

I know this was supposed to "Tie me in knots" but honestly, I did not even stop typing. (except for a bite of my sandwich) God and Jesus are one in ways that most Orthodox christians clearly do not understand while they still have separate bodies.

I keep asking people to pray, here is a good one, how many of the orthodox Christians out there have actually prayed about the Nicene Creed?

Most I talk to don't even read the Bible they say we don't believe, or if they do it is selected portions only. I challenge people to Put our Religion to "the Test" Why not put the Nicene creed to the test, study all that you can about it, praying, read The Bible with the question of the Nicene creed in your mind, then read The Book of Mormon with the same question, and see what God has to say about it all.

Diamond, I am saying to ask God, Are you saying people should or should not ask God, if not, why not?
738 posted on 10/17/2007 1:36:06 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Elsie; MHGinTN
Sorry, meant to ping you guys to this,, Itchy posting finger I guess.
740 posted on 10/17/2007 1:38:10 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
I keep asking people to pray, here is a good one, how many of the orthodox Christians out there have actually prayed about the Nicene Creed?

GBood Question!!

I keep asking people to pray, here is a good one, how many of the LDS organization members out there have actually prayed about the Nicene Creed?

745 posted on 10/17/2007 1:46:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Diamond
I apologize for dragging you into this thread (at #720) when I posted your syllogism regarding ‘Who Raised Jesus From The Dead’, your earlier posted verses showing God The Father Almighty, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit IS the answer showing the concept of trinity is ingrained in the New Testament. With your permission I shall continue to post that clear series of verses (I may even post the Elohim & Jehovah verses too!) without pinging you since the disgust/LDS harangue factor isn’t something you ought have to deal with since some other of us have accepted the task.
749 posted on 10/17/2007 2:52:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: DelphiUser; MHGinTN; Elsie
Are you announcing some kind of organized effort in which you are cooperating with other posters?

No, it's a secret conspiracy!

Cordially,

763 posted on 10/18/2007 7:54:57 AM PDT by Diamond
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