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John 1:11-13

to his own things he came, and his own people did not receive him;

but as many as did receive him to them he gave authority to become sons of God -- to those believing in his name,

who -- not of blood nor of a will of flesh, nor of a will of man but -- of God were begotten.

Gal 3:26-29

for ye are all sons of God through the faith in Christ Jesus,

for as many as to Christ were baptized did put on Christ;

there is not here Jew or Greek, there is not here servant nor freeman, there is not here male and female, for all ye are one in Christ Jesus;

and if ye [are] of Christ then of Abraham ye are seed, and according to promise -- heirs.

1Tim 2:4-5

who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;

for one [is] God, one also [is] mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus,

Hebrews 4:14-16

Having, then, a great chief priest passed through the heavens -- Jesus the Son of God -- may we hold fast the profession,

for we have not a chief priest unable to sympathise with our infirmities, but [one] tempted in all things in like manner -- apart from sin;

we may come near, then, with freedom, to the throne of the grace, that we may receive kindness, and find grace -- for seasonable help.

5:8-10

through being a Son, did learn by the things which he suffered -- the obedience,

and having been made perfect, he did become to all those obeying him a cause of salvation age-during,

having been addressed by God a chief priest, according to the order of Melchisedek,

7:11-17

If indeed, then, perfection were through the Levitical priesthood -- for the people under it had received law -- what further need, according to the order of Melchisedek, for another priest to arise, and not to be called according to the order of Aaron?

for the priesthood being changed, of necessity also, of the law a change doth come,

for he of whom these things are said in another tribe hath had part, of whom no one gave attendance at the altar,

for [it is] evident that out of Judah hath arisen our Lord, in regard to which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

And it is yet more abundantly most evident, if according to the similitude of Melchisedek there doth arise another priest,

who came not according to the law of a fleshly command, but according to the power of an endless life,

for He doth testify -- 'Thou [art] a priest -- to the age, according to the order of Melchisedek;'

7:21-29

and he with an oath through Him who is saying unto him, 'The Lord sware, and will not repent, Thou [art] a priest -- to the age, according to the order of Melchisedek;')

by so much of a better covenant hath Jesus become surety,

and those indeed are many who have become priests, because by death they are hindered from remaining;

and he, because of his remaining -- to the age, hath the priesthood not transient,

whence also he is able to save to the very end, those coming through him unto God -- ever living to make intercession for them.

For such a chief priest did become us -- kind, harmless, undefiled, separate from the sinners, and become higher than the heavens,

who hath no necessity daily, as the chief priests, first for his own sins to offer up sacrifice, then for those of the people; for this he did once, having offered up himself;

for the law doth appoint men chief priests, having infirmity, but the word of the oath that [is] after the law [appointeth] the Son -- to the age having been perfected.

9:24

for not into holy places made with hands did the Christ enter -- figures of the true -- but into the heaven itself, now to be manifested in the presence of God for us;

1Pet 2:1-9

Having put aside, then, all evil, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envyings, and all evil speakings,

as new-born babes the word's pure milk desire ye, that in it ye may grow,

if so be ye did taste that the Lord [is] gracious,

to whom coming -- a living stone -- by men, indeed, having been disapproved of, but with God choice, precious,

and ye yourselves, as living stones, are built up, a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Wherefore, also, it is contained in the Writing: 'Lo, I lay in Zion a chief corner-stone, choice, precious, and he who is believing on him may not be put to shame;'

to you, then, who are believing [is] the preciousness; and to the unbelieving, a stone that the builders disapproved of, this one did become for the head of a corner,

and a stone of stumbling and a rock of offence -- who are stumbling at the word, being unbelieving, -- to which also they were set;

and ye [are] a choice race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people acquired, that the excellences ye may shew forth of Him who out of darkness did call you to His wondrous light;

Just for reference, here are the cited scripture verses from Young's Literal translation of the Greek showing why it is an insult to the Highest Priestly nature of Our Lord to presume He needs or would delegate Mormon prophets to lead the people in this New Testament Age:

Let me try to explain why we Morons keep acting like you have come to a gun fight with a wooden knife.

You keep saying Jesus will teach us everything, you keep saying he will direct us you keep saying that he will answer our prayers directly. Then in the next breath you deny an answer to prayer.

I don't care if your translation is by Young, Bob, George, or yourself, they are men, not prophets. Your very premise here is that the very idea of a modern day prophet is offensive to Jesus Christ. I can prove that wrong by a simple method that is far mor accurate than any translation made by a man, I've asked Him, and I have received an answer. Look, I'm quite sure that Young's translation is top drawer, really first rate stuff. I honestly believe that whoever did it had the very best of intentions, and probably certificates and degres of very prestigious institutions, as things performed by man are measured it's probably a work of art. When compared with a simple revelation form God, it is worthless. Your postulate here as backed up by this work is that God does not call prophets today. We have been commanded in the Bible to knock, ask and even to pray, I have a section on putting our religion to the test on my page here at FR. It's a copy of something I posted here. We Mormons can prove the futility of your quotations with a simple excercise of Reading the Bible, and the Book of Mormon, praying about both, and asking God if they are both true. Now if you tell people not to do this experiment of faith, you are in opposition to the command of God, for he said " Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.". This scripture is written in the present tense, there were already false prophets in the apostles' day. We are commanded in this scripture to try, test and discern between the spirits to see which is of God. I have many times called upon people who were attacking my church on this forum to pray about what they are doing to see if it is truly what God really wants them to do. The mental gemnastics are always interesting to watch as they try to rationalize away an invitation to pray.

It will never offend God for any man to ask his will in any thing.

I to commend you for your dedication and zeal in reading the scriptures, but I ask, when will you start believeing what they say?

Do not be offended by my words, for I am often dissappointed by my ability to voice my thoughts as well as i would like, so please bear with me.

One of the problems many Christians have is an inability to believe Christ. Oh, they know he is the son of God, They know the Gospel as taught by their church, but while they believe IN christ, they do not BELIEVE Christ. They will have committed some sin, maybe petty, mabey severe, it really does not matter, and even though they have gone through sometimes outrageous efforts to make amends and had gone through the repenatce process and cast their burdens on the Lord, yet they find no relief.

The reason many of these people can find no relief is that they fail to believe Jesus Christ when he tells them that he will rememeber their sin no more. They refuse to forgive themselves. Because they cannot see how the atonement works, they fail to believe it. They Believe in Jesus Christ, but they do not believe him when he says they will be forgiven.

MHG, I would say that you are a very leared man, you have spent much time studying, if memory serves, you have degrees, and certificates in large number. Yet, while you believe in christ, your words here tell everyone you do not believe what he is telling you. Pray, it's simple, if God tells people the Book of Mormon is not of God, then we are commiting suicide as a religion by asking people to do this. If you are sure that God will testify of the Bible, but not the Book of Mormon, you should be right there beside me encouraging people who are curious to read both an pray. for then they will no longer be curious.

If you preach aganst praying about anything to know it is true (the Book of Mormon for example), then you don ot believe Christ when he tells you to pray in the Bible. It's that simple.

If insted you postulate that Satan is somehow able to respond to a prayer to God, which CS Lewis in his book "THE SCREWTAPE LETTERS" says is impossible, and for which there is no scriptural support for such a position, or no prayer's answer is sure.

Again, let me iterate, The God of Abraham, and of issac and of Jacob has and will always answer prayers, Mormons only ask that people pray. Once someone has prayed about the Book fo Momron, and recieved an answer, arguments about the interpetaion of scriptures that you are taking to mean there can be no more prophets, are moot.

MHG, Pray about what you are doing, please.