MHG, please understand I will continue to point this out not because it bothers me, but so that others will see how petty you are being here. MHGinTN refuses to actually respond to posts by me because I made a comment to someone else that offended him, so he responds to my posts, and then does not keep my name in the to line so I won't know he has posted unless I go look. Hey, whatever it takes to make you feel like you are "winning" some imagined contest, dude.
HEBREWS 1:1-4 In many parts, and many ways, God of old having spoken to the fathers in the prophets, in these last days did speak to us in a Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He did make the ages; who being the brightness of the glory, and the impress of His subsistence, bearing up also the all things by the saying of his might -- through himself having made a cleansing of our sins, sat down at the right hand of the greatness in the highest, having become so much better than the messengers, as he did inherit a more excellent name than they. [ Young’s literal translation from the Greek ]
The Book of Hebrews was written to Jews who were familiar with prophets and priests of Judaism. The author’s purpose becomes clear very quickly because the writer contrasts the past method by which God spoke to the Hebrews --via prophets-- with the new way He speaks to us via His Son.
So to you God is changing his methodology here, and prophets will be completely done away with. Interesting, then why is there any prophecy about future prophets in the New Testament?
Revelations 11:10, 18 Why is there a list of offices for Christ's Church which includes Prophets in it, in the New Testament (See
1 Cor. 12: 28-29 I could go on about prophecies that have not yet been fulfilled that require prophets, but I think your interpretation of the scriptures, since it contradicts scripture, is safely dead. Besides, who says God can't send Jesus, and then have more prophets later? oh yeah, you. It's not surprising since you are using books to try to understand God instead of asking him directly which is what we teach and you seem to hate.
The writer is making this case to people who had identified themselves as Christians and making the case in order to prevent them falling back into Judaism and/or falling short of true faith in Christ rather than the system of the law and the prophets.
IMHO, there will always be a law and prophets.
Mormonism has sought to reestablish the Judaism system of ‘law and prophets’
BZZT, Wrong! (Again)
… which Jesus replaced by fulfilling them and has thus become our Great High Priest and speaks directly to us via His Word such that we are not now to establish ‘different’ or ’new’ doctrine and covenants via ‘prophets‘ calling themselves messengers of God:
Wait, did you just say that because Jesus speaks to us we can't follow a Prophet even if Jesus testifies of one? Huh? (Folks, this is called cognitive dissonance.)
This is getting Good, Pray continue...
HEBREWS 2:5 For not to messengers did He subject the coming world, concerning which we speak,
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2:7 Thou didst make him some little less than messengers, with glory and honour Thou didst crown him, and didst set him over the works of Thy hands,
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2:9 and him who was made some little less than messengers we see -- Jesus -- because of the suffering of the death, with glory and honour having been crowned, that by the grace of God for every one he might taste of death.
So, you jump around in the scriptures and succeed in pointing out that God made Jesus.
Mormons believe that too, we specify that it was before time began and that Jesus was a member of the Godhead (a Biblical word as opposed to Trinity which is not in the Bible anywhere.) And thus was and is God from all Eternity to all Eternity and was before and last, etc, etc.
This is funny, here is the scripture you butchered to try to make your point.
Hebrews 2 1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;
3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
5 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?
7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the edevil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
WOW, what a wonderful scripture full of the mission of Jesus Christ, his creation, the start of time, mortality, and his role as savior! Wait, what you got out of that by interpreting it was That there are no more prophets? I think you need to stop interpreting, and start reading, but hey what do I know, I'm a Mormon, so what could I possibly know of the Bible. (BTW, when ever you cut out half the scriptures in a chapter to make your point, you are not getting the message that was in there, you are twisting the scriptures to your own interpretation, what's next, rearranging the words?
I'll deal with your other fabrications later...
IMHO, there will always be a law and prophets.
Ok...
Acts 15
1. Some men came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the brothers: "Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved."
2. This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question.
3. The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the brothers very glad.
4. When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.
5. Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to obey the law of Moses."
6. The apostles and elders met to consider this question.
7. After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe.
8. God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.
9. He made no distinction between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith.
10. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?
11. No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."
12. The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the miraculous signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them.
13. When they finished, James spoke up: "Brothers, listen to me.
14. Simon has described to us how God at first showed his concern by taking from the Gentiles a people for himself.
15. The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16. "`After this I will return and rebuild David's fallen tent. Its ruins I will rebuild, and I will restore it,
17. that the remnant of men may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who bear my name, says the Lord, who does these things'
18. that have been known for ages.
19. "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God.
20. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.
21. For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."
22. Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, two men who were leaders among the brothers.
23. With them they sent the following letter: The apostles and elders, your brothers, To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia: Greetings.
24. We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said.
25. So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul--
26. men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27. Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing.
28. It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements:
29. You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.
30. The men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter.
31. The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message.