Posted on 09/14/2007 11:18:23 AM PDT by Frank Sheed
No more permission needed for Latin Mass, cardinal says
Rome, Sep. 14, 2007 (CWNews.com) - With the formal implementation of Summorum Pontificum, the Pope's motu proprio providing wider access to the 1962 Roman Missal, diocesan priests do not need permission to celebrate the Latin Mass, a top Vatican official has stated.
Cardinal Dario Castrillon-Hoyos-- the president of the Ecclesia Dei commission, which supervises Vatican outreach to traditionalist Catholics-- says that "from this point, priests can decide to celebrate the Mass using the old rite, without permission from the Holy See or the bishop."
In an interview with Vatican Radio on September 13, broadcast just before the motu proprio officially took effect, Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos explained that Pope Benedict's motu proprio affirms the right of any priest to use the "extraordinary form" of the Latin liturgy. "It is, therefore, uncessary to ask for any other permission," he said.
Some diocesan bishops have cautioned their priests against using the 1962 Missal without explicit permission from the diocese. But the president of the Ecclesia Dei commission-- which would hear any appeals regarding the new liturgical rules-- contradicted that notion in his Vatican Radio appearance. While affirming the bishop's authority to resolve any liturgical conflicts within his diocese, the Colombian cardinal said that the bishop should exercise that power "without negating the right that the Pope has given to the entire Church."
Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos said that the motu proprio involves "no big change" in the liturgy of the Roman Church, since the older liturgy was never banned. Vatican II affirmed the freedoms of the faithful, he said, and one such freedom, which Pope Benedict has now confirmed, was access to the older liturgical form.
"Nothing is imposed on anyone" by Summorum Pontificum, the cardinal said. In allowing for greater use of the old Missal, he explained, Pope Benedict is merely "opening a possibility to the faithful who request it."
Regards, Cardinal Castrillon-Hoyos, Ecclesia Dei Commission
If you quarrel, I will ZOT, says Cardinal...
Somebody sent me this from Rorate Caeli earlier today, and I sent it right on to a priest I know who wants to celebrate the TLM.
I live in the Diocese of St. Augustine, where the bishop is intent on killing the MP and rashly announced that priests couldn’t say the TLM even privately without his permission. Guess this takes care of that foolish statement!
And some are planning to require some sort of test on Latin or rubrics or both! And Cdl. O'Malley still thinks it's up to him to "expand" permission for the TLM if he sees fit.
In view of the fact that the USCCB Liturgy Committee had their meeting before August 17, and they planned to send their dubia, do you suppose they did and they got any answers yet?
That’s what this post is about, Mary. “If you send them, I will Zot.” It couldn’t be more clear.
They are stalling for time, but it will get stomped upon arrival. The Bishops are NOT those to whom requests are made; the pastors are. It is simple chain of command.
As a Bishop, how’d you like a phone call from Rome from His Holiness who, in his soft Bavarian voice begins by saying, “Are you going to make me come over zere to straighten you out soon-to-be Monsignor, my next legate to an Amazon village?”
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"Don't make me come down there, mein lieber Freund!"
But what if they don't "send them"? I feel quite sure none of the questions submitted by the bishops will involve "may I require testing in Latin and rubrics before allowing a priest to say the TLM?" One bishop, IIRC, as some sort of "certification" planned.
I don't know how they'll handle outright hostility (even if circumspectly veiled) to the TLM from bishops whose priests are not dopes and who realize that crossing the bishop in this will not win them points!
Not all communications to the PCED will come from bishops. Priests and laity can appeal to PCED if their bishops are, um, unhelpful.
...as directly stipulated in the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum.
Except for those two Masses, though, it seems to be sliding past Boston, without even a nod. Of course, they're planning that RENEW International thing! And there's already word that Boston might be closing another 40 parishes -- I'm sure no pastor would want to cross O'Malley right now. Even if no words are spoken, and there's nothing you can put your finger on.
Of course, he's having that "extra" meeting with all the priests of the archdiocese today. My guess would be it's not to tell them where and when training for the TLM will be available!
Just seems so near and yet so far!
That doesn't seem to be the position that the Florida bishops have taken.
The Florida Bishops seem to be spoiling for a fight.
We shall see to what extent the Vatican is able to force recalcitrant Bishops to behave properly. In this case, they’re exceeding their authority.
As Sister Clarissa was fond of saying, “Patience is a virtue!”
I just watched about one hour of the Solemn High Mass being replayed on EWTN and want to catch Raymond Arroyo at 8:00 EDT so I am in and then out of here.
The homilist for the Mass, a member of the FSSP, unloaded with both barrels on the years of wandering in the wilderness and heavily quoted from Pope John Paul II, Pope Benedict and so on. He made a powerful case to correct the discombobulation that many have over what “liturgy” is and how we participate. It was magnificent. It is from God and NOT from us. The homily was a classic, and I think many will get to hear it.
Just think, perhaps a billion people will see this Mass live, in Encore presentations, and I’m sure on videotape for sale because the Mass was glorious.
Bishops can line up from here to Toledo. They can’t send enough divisions to outflank a tiny Poor Clare nun named Angelica led by the Holy Spirit who has a TV station on every cable network around the globe.
Just watch and wait. It took 40 years to get here. Let’s see how soon things are undone. The Holy Spirit is running this show; he told Pope Benedict that it was time.
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I’ll back the Pope... There are many Amazonian villages needing Monsignors at this time.
Message to His Holiness:
Be patient, cheerful, smile, and carry a big heavy strudel.
**Cardinal Dario Castrillon-Hoyos— the president of the Ecclesia Dei commission, which supervises Vatican outreach to traditionalist Catholics— says that “from this point, priests can decide to celebrate the Mass using the old rite, without permission from the Holy See or the bishop.”**
Cardinal, could you please contact Roger Cardinal Mahoney personally for us.
And some other American Bishops, PLEASE!
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I just watched the World Over Live with Raymond Arroyo, Archbishop Burke of St. Louis, Bishop D’Arcy of Indiana, and the Pastor at St. John Cantius. The discussion was totally on the Motu Proprio, Summorum Pontificum. The main point of interest to many is as follows:
The youth are greatly interested in the TLM. This has been the witness of St. John Cantius. Also, priests are being trained all over the country by a number of organizations and are using the website, Sancta Missae. The rest is in the hands of the faithful.
Both Archbishop Burke and Bishop D’Arcy said that Catholics interested in the TLM on a “stable basis” (not just seeing it on one Sunday) need to find one another. Once a reasonable group is formed, the Bishop WILL try to facilitate a manner to get them hooked up with a priest at a parish which is accessible. One gent from Richmond wrote that most TLM Indult Masses are now in a rundown part of a city or in a Cemetery Mausoleum. Bishop D’Arcy spoke up and said that the way the M.P. is written focuses on the Bishop very closely because the laity can take their complaint to Rome. In another words, the ball is in our court. You may not get a TLM at YOUR Parish, but there should be a way to find one without me having to drive for 4 hours.
There is contention over the word “idoneus” in the M.P. which some Bishops are interpreting as anything from “proficient in Latin” to an expert. Archbishop Burke agreed essentially with Fr. Z. and said this meant capable: the priest may not know all the finesse of the Latin but must pronounce it so that it is not butchered. In time, this will not be a problem because young priests in the seminary are jumping all over this. Thus, the Florida Bishops are walking on “thin ice” as are some others.
So, it is not going to fall from heaven, FRiends. A group must be identified, some folks interested in singing Chant must be found, and servers must be located. Once that happens, a Bishop is duty-bound to assist (as they are doing in South Bend, IN) or the Ecclesia Dei Commission gets the Bishop’s license number and driver’s license and it goes to Papa Ratzi!
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