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1 posted on 09/10/2007 12:16:24 PM PDT by NYer
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Convert - revert - interesting.


2 posted on 09/10/2007 12:17:08 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Yet celibacy was not mandatory for Latin Rite Catholic priests until the 12th century

Commonly repeated lie.

3 posted on 09/10/2007 12:20:08 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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A recent study by Catholic University in Washington estimated that making celibacy optional likely would quadruple the number of priests.

Oh, of course.

Until these prospective ordinands found out that: (1) You cannot be in debt and enter a seminary (i.e. no mortgages allowed) and (2) you get paid jack plus squat.

And no word on if the study includes the numerous Catholic priests who were laicized in the 1970s so they could get married.

They will never be allowed to work as priests again, no matter the circumstances.

4 posted on 09/10/2007 12:25:43 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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*****The 52-year-old husband, father and former Episcopal priest weighs it every day as he considers ordination to the Catholic priesthood after leaving a church he felt was in turmoil.*****

Leaving a church he felt was in turmoil-——and the Roman Catholic Church in not in turmoil. Maybe, I missed something.

5 posted on 09/10/2007 12:29:00 PM PDT by GOPologist (When one lowers himself to argue with a fool, then you don't know which one is the fool.)
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I think this article captures very well the pain some of our Episcopal Brethren experience when feel they have been forced to set off into the deep of another Faith Tradition.


6 posted on 09/10/2007 12:41:36 PM PDT by Cheverus
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Ya’ know...this isn’t like working for Pepsi and deciding quit and go work for Coca-Cola.......

There is a commitment of faith and belief in the traditions and beliefs of the Catholic Church. That doesn’t happen because of current job disatisfaction.....

Sigh......Whatever....


8 posted on 09/10/2007 12:50:08 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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"It's a burden to carry around two vocations in life," Webb said. Even as a married Protestant minister, Webb said one is always robbing time from one vocation for the sake of the other.

If this is how he feels, perhaps he doesn't truly have two vocations.

9 posted on 09/10/2007 12:50:57 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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He has not made a final decision about entering the priesthood. "I need to be ready spiritually," Webb says. "The care of souls is an intimidating responsibility."

Intimidating, perhaps ... but if it's a novel concept to the gentleman, what was he doing as an Episcopal priest?

In general, I think the Church needs to be as cautious about ordaining former Protestant clergy as about any other candidates for the priesthood ... perhaps even more so. The concept that they're merely "changing employers" is intuitively simple - but far from the sacramental reality!

12 posted on 09/10/2007 1:24:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I dreamed that Horatio Hornblower was a Death Eater.)
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“A recent study by Catholic University in Washington estimated that making celibacy optional likely would quad ruple the number of priests. “

to put it bluntly, this is total BS!!!!!!!!!
the number of heretics and bad priests would quadrouple and good priests would leave.


26 posted on 09/10/2007 6:36:52 PM PDT by rogernz
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He just wants to get into some new habits.


27 posted on 09/10/2007 6:44:40 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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I just hope we don't get too dependent on the ol "pastoral provision". It's the easy way out of the "priest shortage".(The "shortage" is debatable to some..I am of the position that there is perhaps a shortage of "riteous priests").

However, the greater problem I see is the "nun shortage." We need more holy women in the church. Whatever the solution will be, the succesfull effort will involve brining both the sexes back into religious life. It will be a massive re-awakening for everyone.

42 posted on 09/15/2007 9:15:29 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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**Cindy Webb says if Phil chooses the priesthood, “God will work out the details.”

She was raised Catholic and converted to the Episcopal Church for Phil after they married.

“I felt our family should all be together in one place,” Cindy Webb says. “Phil and I have not been on the same timetable. We’ve had to kind of wait for each other.”**

God bless this wife and her support of her husband!


43 posted on 09/15/2007 9:21:21 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Even as a married Protestant minister, Webb said one is always robbing time from one vocation for the sake of the other.

So just how many hours a day does a Catholic priest work on average?

44 posted on 09/15/2007 9:21:51 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Married man considers turn as Catholic priest

Searching For Authority (A Methodist minister finds himself surprised by Truth!)
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part VI: The Biblical Reality (Al Kresta)
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part V: The Catholics and the Pope(Al Kresta)
The Hail Mary of a Protestant (A true story)
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part IV: Crucifix and Altar(Al Kresta)

Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part III: Tradition and Church (Al Kresta)
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part II: Doubts (Al Kresta)
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part I: Darkness(Al Kresta)
Conversion Story - Matt Enloe (former Baptist) [prepare to be amazed!]
THE ORTHODOX REVIVAL IN RUSSIA

Conversion Story - David Finkelstein (former Jew)
Conversion Story - John Weidner (former Evangelical)
12 Reasons I Joined the Catholic Church
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The Tide Is Turning Toward Catholicism: The Converts

John Calvin Made Me Catholic
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Going Catholic - Six journeys to Rome
My (Imminent) Reception into the Roman Catholic Church
From Calvinist to Catholic

A Convert's Pilgrimage [Christopher Cuddy]
From Pastor to Parishioner: My Love for Christ Led Me Home (to the Catholic Church) [Drake McCalister]
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Catholic Converts - Stephen K. Ray (former Evangelical)
Catholic Converts - Malcolm Muggeridge

Catholic Converts - Richard John Neuhaus
Catholic Converts - Avery Cardinal Dulles
Catholic Converts - Israel (Eugenio) Zolli - Chief Rabbi of Rome
Catholic Converts - Robert H. Bork , American Jurist (Catholic Caucus)
Catholic Converts - Marcus Grodi

Why Converts Choose Catholicism
Journey Home - May 21 - Neil Babcox (former Presbyterian) - A minister encounters Mary

Going Catholic - Six journeys to Rome
My (Imminent) Reception into the Roman Catholic Church
From Calvinist to Catholic
A Convert's Pilgrimage [Christopher Cuddy]
From Pastor to Parishioner: My Love for Christ Led Me Home (to the Catholic Church) [Drake McCalister]
Lutheran professor of philosophy prepares to enter Catholic Church

Patty Bonds (former Baptist and sister of Dr. James White) to appear on The Journey Home - May 7
Pastor and Flock Become Catholics
The journey back - Dr. Beckwith explains his reasons for returning to the Catholic Church
Famous Homosexual Italian Author Returned to the Church Before Dying of AIDS
Dr. Francis Beckwith Returns To Full Communion With The Church

Catholic Converts - Stephen K. Ray (former Evangelical)
Catholic Converts - Malcolm Muggeridge
Catholic Converts - Richard John Neuhaus
Catholic Converts - Avery Cardinal Dulles
Catholic Converts - Israel (Eugenio) Zolli - Chief Rabbi of Rome

Catholic Converts - Robert H. Bork , American Jurist (Catholic Caucus)
Catholic Converts - Marcus Grodi
Why Converts Choose Catholicism
How I led Catholics Out of the Church [Steve Wood]
The Scott Hahn Conversion Story
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Conversion Story - Rusty Tisdale (former Pentecostal)

46 posted on 09/15/2007 9:28:21 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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