Posted on 09/10/2007 11:40:04 AM PDT by NYer
I just became a pro-football player. The NFL won’t recognize me, and I don’t get paid, nor will they let me play at their games. But I’m a pro-football player.
Go for it! Start your own church; you won't be the first or the last but you won't be part of the Catholic Church, either.
Even if these fake "bishops" were men, then, they still would not be validly consecrated.
That's a double whammy.
Hilarious analogy - and think about it further: if there were self-declared NFL players like these self-declared “priests” they would be considered delusional stalkers.
We are an Emperor. < snort >
You will bow, and walk backwards when leaving our Imperial Presence. < ROFL!!!!! >
Why not join the UCC.
Actually, that's not completely true. There is open debate (and there has been for centuries) whether or not in the very very very rarest of cases where grave necessity would necessitate it, that a priest could ordain a priest and/or consecrate a bishop.
Certainly though, this is not one of them.
I thought that was decided in Japan. When the priests there died out, there was no bishop and the Japanese Catholics sustained themselves solely through baptism without a clergy for generations until the Church was able to provide them with pastors again.
Dear God this makes me so mad, but I’m being more tempered with sad at this same old crap. Because these women are hearing the voice not of God, but Satan, and they don’t discern it.
Listening to Fr. Corapi lately draws me to that conclusion. They have spent their entire lives seeking the Lord, and I just can’t figure anything else as to why they go down that path
I feel sorry for all the deception, both them deceiving themselves and their being deceived by Satan. In trying to please God they are pleasing Satan. May the Lord quickly bring them to a full knowledge of His power, righteousness, and love.
The Pope should excommunicate them immediately.
I just happened to be discussing it this past weekend with a priest who is a canon lawyer. It sounds as though it's a fairly obscure issue within the Church. I had never given it thought before that point.
On the other ...
1) They're already excommunicated, by the very act of simulating and mocking a Sacrament.
2) These pathetic critters are a dime-a-dozen, now, and they don't seem to be fooling anybody.
“They’re already excommunicated, by the very act of simulating and mocking a Sacrament.”
Not officially. If you leave the door open, more like-minded idiots will walk through it. Slam the door shut in their face. Excommunicate them.
The canon law on this is worth familiarizing yourself with. One can be excommunicated laetae sententiae (by the very act) as, for example, by participating in an abortion, profaning a Sacrament, or a variety of other things. Or one can be declared excommunicated ferendae sententiae (by formal decree) ... that's pretty rare. As I suggested, the latter would be nice for these critters; that's what you'r asking for. Some of the early female profaners-of-ordination, a few years ago, were formally excommunicated by the local bishop. Still, there can be little doubt that the former applies to them.
Nonetheless, because I have declared it, so it is and shall be.
Here's where we get down to brass tacks:
She worked for years as a Catholic parish coordinator at an army intelligence base in Warrenton, Va., where she was the go-to person when people needed a minister.(emphasis supplied, as they say). Pride as usual is at the bottom of this whole nonsense.She bonded with the 150-person congregation, but then had to step aside when a priest came in for a couple of hours a week to perform the sacraments, which are central to the Roman Catholic faith.
The split in functions didn't seem holistic to her. It seemed to make more sense that she be able to offer the sacraments to her flock.
This outcome -- which seems all too common -- is an overwhelmingly convincing reason not to allow "Parish Coordinators". It encourages them in their delusions. The church needs to find another solution (although orthodox seminaries are going to fill the need in a few more years.)
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