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Was Jesus Married?
Mormonism Research Ministry ^ | By Bill McKeever

Posted on 09/01/2007 8:44:09 AM PDT by Ottofire

Dan Brown's fictional novel (emphasis on fictional) The DaVinci Code insists that Jesus was married and that he had a child named Sarah with his wife Mary Magdalene. Such a theory is hardly unique. Several Mormon leaders insisted that Jesus was married, but like Brown, none of them offered any more than pure conjecture to support such a claim. Unlike Brown, LDS leaders have gone on record saying Jesus was not only married, but that he was a polygamist as well!

On October 6, 1854, Mormon Apostle Orson Hyde stated, "How was it with Mary and Martha, and other women that followed him [Jesus]? In old times, and it is common in this day, the women, even as Sarah, called their husbands Lord; the word Lord is tantamount to husband in some languages, master, lord, husband, are about synonymous... When Mary of old came to the sepulchre on the first day of the week, instead of finding Jesus she saw two angels in white, 'And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou?' She said unto them,' Because they have taken away my Lord,' or husband, 'and I know not where they have laid him.' And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away. Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.' Is there not here manifested the affections of a wife. These words speak the kindred ties and sympathies that are common to that relation of husband and wife" (Journal of Discourses 2:81).

In that same talk he went on to say:

"Now there was actually a marriage; and if Jesus was not the bridegroom on that occasion, please tell who was. If any man can show this, and prove that it was not the Savior of the world, then I will acknowledge I am in error. We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into the relation whereby he could see his seed, before he was crucified" (Journal of Discourses 2:82).

Answering Hyde's specific question is difficult because scripture gives no indication about who was married on that occasion in Cana. Since Mary, the mother of Jesus, was somehow involved in the preparation, it has been surmised that it could have been a relative, but no concrete evidence is available. One thing is certain, though; this could not have possibly been the wedding of Jesus. John 2:2 makes it abundantly clear that Jesus and His disciples were invited to this event, and since Jewish grooms are not usually invited to their own wedding, it is ridiculous to agree with Hyde's very flawed assumption.

It appears that Hyde's teaching was readily accepted by the LDS leadership. We find no record of Hyde being admonished for teaching such a notion. In fact, we find that he made a similar comment six months later. On March 18, 1855 Hyde said:

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children" (Journal of Discourses 2:210).

Mormon Apostle Orson Pratt agreed with his contemporary when he wrote, "One thing is certain, that there were several holy women that greatly loved Jesus -- such as Mary, and Martha her sister, and Mary Magdalene; and Jesus greatly loved them, and associated with them much; and when He arose from the dead, instead of showing Himself to His chosen witnesses, the Apostles, He appeared first to these women, or at least to one of them -- namely, Mary Magdalene. Now it would be natural for a husband in the resurrection to appear first to his own dear wives, and afterwards show himself to his other friends. If all the acts of Jesus were written, we no doubt should learn that these beloved women were His wives" (The Seer, p.159).

On page 172 of the same book, Pratt wrote, "We have now clearly shown that God, the Father had a plurality of wives, one or more being in eternity, by whom He begat our spirits as well as the spirit of Jesus His First Born... We have also proved most clearly that the Son followed the example of his Father, and became the great Bridegroom to whom kings' daughters and many honorable Wives to be married."

On July 22, 1883, Wilford Woodruff recorded the words of Joseph F. Smith in his journal. At the time Woodruff was an LDS apostle while Smith was a member of the First Presidency serving as second counselor to President John Taylor. Woodruff wrote, "Evening Meeting. Prayer By E Stephenson. Joseph F Smith spoke One hour & 25 M. He spoke upon the Marriage in Cana at Galilee. He thought Jesus was the Bridgegroom and Mary & Martha the brides. He also refered to Luke 10 ch. 38 to 42 verse, Also John 11 ch. 2 & 5 vers John 12 Ch 3d vers, John 20 8 to 18. Joseph Smith spoke upon these passages to show that Mary & Martha manifested much Closer relationship than Merely A Believer which looks Consistet. He did not think that Jesus who decended throug Poligamous families from Abraham down & who fulfilled all the Law even baptism by immersion would have lived and died without being married." (Wilford Woodruff's Journal 8:187, July 22, 1883, spelling left intact).

To my knowledge there is no evidence to indicate that Woodruff disagreed with Smith's comments. Woodruff and Smith later became Mormonism's fourth and sixth presidents.

Was this just a nineteenth century Mormon notion? Not entirely. In a letter dated March 17, 1963, Joseph Fielding Smith was asked if the phrase "he shall see his seed" mentioned in Isaiah 53:10 meant that Christ had children. In the letter it also mentioned that "only through temple marriage can we receive the highest degree of exaltation and dwell in the presence of our Heavenly Father" and since Christ came to set an example, is it correct to assume that Jesus was married? When Smith responded to this letter, he held the position of an LDS apostle. He would later become Mormonism's 10th president after the death of David O. McKay in January of 1970.

Rather than retype the inquirer's questions, Smith handwrote his reply at the bottom of the letter. To the first question he gave a reference from the Book of Mormon, Mosiah 15:10-12, admonishing the inquirer to "Please Read Your Book of Mormon!" The contexts of these passages do not say that Jesus had children. Instead it implies that Jesus' seed are those whose sins Jesus has borne. However, Joseph Fielding Smith answered the second question (Was Jesus married?) by writing, "Yes! But do not preach it! The Lord advised us not to cast pearls before swine!" Underneath his reply bore the signature of Joseph Fielding Smith.

Such comments caused the LDS Church public relations team to go into damage control mode. An article in the May 17, 2006 issue of the Deseret News titled "LDS do not endorse claims in 'DaVinci'" stated, "LDS doctrine does not endorse claims made in a popular book and movie that Jesus Christ was married." The article went on to quote LDS Church spokesperson Dale Bills who had said this just a day earlier: "The belief that Christ was married has never been official church doctrine. It is neither sanctioned nor taught by the church. While it is true that a few church leaders in the mid-1800s expressed their opinions on the matter, it was not then, and is not now, church doctrine."

Such a disclaimer once again exposes the duplicity of the LDS Church. Mormons often boast that their church is a restoration of the New Testament model. They also claim to have men who are called by God to instruct the LDS membership in teachings that are allegedly true. Yet, when they are confronted with embarrassing comments from these leaders, this same church distances itself from such remarks. Notice I said distance and not denounced. Nowhere does Bills say that such teachings are not true; rather, they just aren't "official." This is, dare I say, the official way the Mormon leadership gets itself out of awkward jams. The problem is, as I have often said, the LDS Church cannot supply a definition of the word official that has been consistent throughout its history. Still, we have enough information from church manuals to show that Bills statement is certainly misleading at best.

Is Bills' being totally honest when he relegates these teachings to mere opinion? No, he isn't.

Notice the date of Orson Hyde's first comment above. Hyde's talk was given on October 6, 1854, in conference. Conference is held twice a year and addresses given at these events are not taken lightly by most Latter-day Saints. Fifteenth President Ezra Taft Benson even referred to them as a member's "marching orders" for the next six months (Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 335).

Consider also that the quotes supplied above are statements from very prominent members of the LDS Church leadership, three of whom would go on to become Mormon prophets. Is Bills really trying to imply that these men were speaking irresponsibly? I don't believe that at all. This is just another case of the LDS Church hiding behind words and counting on an ignorant public. If we had three apostles agreeing on a specific teaching in the New Testament, it can be certain that it would, without question, be considered Christian doctrine.

Furthermore, in 1945 the General Priesthood Committee of the Council of the Twelve commissioned a book to be written by Seventy Milton R. Hunter that was to be "used by all high priest's, seventies', and elders' classes in their weekly meetings, beginning January 1, 1946." The Gospel Through the Ages was to present "the story of the plan of life and salvation which was instituted by our Heavenly father and His Only Begotten Son in the spirit world before man was placed upon the earth; and it discusses the revelations of eternal truths from Adam's day forward" (Preface, p.vii).

On page 18 of The Gospel Through the Ages it lists the "Gospel Ordinances" that must be practiced by "the sons and daughters of God" if they hope to get back into the presence of God. "Such ordinances as baptism, confirmation, temple ordinances, priesthood ordinations, marriage, and others, are all part of the Gospel plan of Salvation" (emphasis mine.). On the following page it states that "Jesus Christ, the only perfect man who has lived on this earth, was perfect because He obeyed all the principles and ordinances of the Gospel in order that He 'might fulfill all righteousness'" (emphasis mine). If that is so, then Bills is misleading the public when he relegates the above comments to mere opinion.

But let us assume for the sake of argument that such teachings were mere opinion. Are Latter-day Saints given the option to treat comments from general authorities as they would a restaurant salad bar, picking and choosing only what appeals to them? Well, according to one LDS Church manual, "Prophets have the right to personal opinions. Not every word they speak should be thought of as an official interpretation or pronouncement. However, their discourses to the Saints, and their official writings should be considered products of their official prophetic calling and should be heeded" (Teachings of the Living Prophets, p.21. Emphasis mine).

Are we to assume that the LDS leadership and its PR department don't read their church's manuals? Or are we to assume that they hope the membership doesn't? One thing is abundantly clear and that is the LDS Church is of often guilty of teaching two messages -- one for the membership and one for the general public. May our Lord expose this duplicity and in doing so cause Mormons everywhere to see that their church has no intention of being truthful when it comes to its teachings or history.

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Another article I just posted made me think of something, and had to dig a bit, but was Jesus married? He would have to be, the Mormons would say, to reach exultation, no?
1 posted on 09/01/2007 8:44:10 AM PDT by Ottofire
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To: Ottofire
Another article I just posted made me think of something, and had to dig a bit, but was Jesus married? He would have to be, the Mormons would say, to reach exultation, no?

I'm not Mormon, but I do know that if you took speculation from the ministers and laypeople of any church and compared them against their official church doctrine it would be easy to find discrepancies.

2 posted on 09/01/2007 8:47:28 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Ottofire

IF Jesus were married why does the Bible refer to the Church as His bride? and speak of the Marriage Supper of the Lamb? There’s no way Jesus would be anything but pure for His spotless bride.

‘Course if a person is Mormon, maybe having two wives isn’t a problem.


3 posted on 09/01/2007 9:09:22 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Ottofire
The article went on to quote LDS Church spokesperson Dale Bills who had said this just a day earlier: "The belief that Christ was married has never been official church doctrine. It is neither sanctioned nor taught by the church. While it is true that a few church leaders in the mid-1800s expressed their opinions on the matter, it was not then, and is not now, church doctrine."

Brother Bills was correct. The belief that Jesus was married is an opinion, not an official doctrine of the Church. That is to say, has not been presented by the First Presidency as a revelation to the Church, nor has it been accepted as such by the Church. It is not taught in our official Sunday School manuals. Members are not expected to believe it.

Although the idea that Jesus might have been married does not bother me in the slightest, I remain unconvinced by the arguments I have heard. The evidence presented in the Bible is circumstantial at best, and I know of no latter-day revelation on the subject. If the Lord has not chosen to reveal the truth of the matter, it must not be important to know at this time.

Such a disclaimer once again exposes the duplicity of the LDS Church.

Only to those who are already convinced that the LDS Church is duplicitous.

4 posted on 09/01/2007 9:24:25 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: DouglasKC
I'm not Mormon, but I do know that if you took speculation from the ministers and laypeople of any church and compared them against their official church doctrine it would be easy to find discrepancies.

An excellent point.

5 posted on 09/01/2007 9:25:28 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: Ottofire; Mach5
THIS is why I cannot abide Mormonism.........and I have to question Romney. This stuff is over the top. Multiple wives indeed.
6 posted on 09/01/2007 9:30:24 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Ottofire

I thought he was gay? /heavy sarc. The liberals believe that and the mormans believe he is married. Well I would bet that both questions are wrong. We will only find out once we are off this Earth and in Heaven.


7 posted on 09/01/2007 9:32:31 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Logophile

Ahh, the official Morman Church acted out it’s belief in multiple wives which would tend to undermine part of your point. They indeed sanctioned and taught multiple wives were ok, so did they not assume Jesus sanctioned it himself?


8 posted on 09/01/2007 9:33:48 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Logophile
revelation to the Church

Are the revelations considered to be directly from God or is the Church President a prophet?

9 posted on 09/01/2007 9:45:31 AM PDT by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: Ottofire

***”I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children” (Journal of Discourses 2:210).

On October 6, 1854, ... it is common in this day, the women, even as Sarah, called their husbands Lord; the word Lord is tantamount to husband in some languages, master, lord, husband, are about synonymous... When Mary of old came to the sepulchre on the first day of the week, instead of finding Jesus she saw two angels in white, ‘And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou?’ She said unto them,’ Because they have taken away my Lord,’ or husband,***

Does this mean that Jesus was also married to Thomas?

Jhn 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Hey, just asking!


10 posted on 09/01/2007 11:48:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Ever see WILLIS SHAW backwards in your rear view mirror? I have!)
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To: tioga
This stuff is over the top.

After learning that Joseph Smith dictated the Book of Mormon from behind a blanket by translating golden plates inscribed in 'reformed Egyptian' with his face buried in a hat with a magic stone in it and occasionally using giant spectacles, I have no problem with it.

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not

11 posted on 09/01/2007 12:06:22 PM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS (with clusters))
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To: Ottofire
Was Jesus Married? [LDS doctrine]

Jesus Was Married = Not LDS doctrine There fixed the title.

12 posted on 09/01/2007 2:16:16 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Ottofire
>>He would have to be, the Mormons would say, to reach exultation, no?

I guess to reach "exultation" maybe (rolling eyes), But to reach "Exaltation" he would not have to be. In LDS Doctrine one does not have to be married to reach the Celestial Kingdom.

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13 posted on 09/01/2007 2:25:54 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Ottofire
The Journal of Discourses and the Seer are not considered Doctrine by Mormons. If you are really interested in what is considered canon and what is not in my church I can go into it.

In 1865, a majority of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the LDS Church officially condemned some of Pratt's doctrinal declarations contained in The Seer:

"The Seer contain doctrines which we cannot sanction, and which we have felt impressed to disown, so that the Saints who now live, and who may live hereafter, may not be misled by our silence, or be left to misinterpret it. Where these objectionable works, or parts of works, are bound in volumes, or otherwise, they should be cut out and destroyed."[2]

14 posted on 09/01/2007 2:33:44 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: tioga
Ahh, the official Morman Church acted out it’s belief in multiple wives which would tend to undermine part of your point. They indeed sanctioned and taught multiple wives were ok, so did they not assume Jesus sanctioned it himself?

Although we believe that Jesus has approved of plural marriage in times past, that does not mean that he himself practiced it.

15 posted on 09/01/2007 7:07:42 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: John123
Are the revelations considered to be directly from God or is the Church President a prophet?

We believe that the President of the Church is a prophet who receives revelation from God to guide the Church. Note that we do not consider as prophecy everything the president says; he is a prophet only when acting as such. The president may well express his own opinions, which are not binding on the Church.

Moreover, individual members may receive personal revelation to guide them in their particular callings and situations. Revelation to anyone other than the President of the Church is not binding on the Church as a whole.

16 posted on 09/01/2007 7:28:06 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile
I love the way the Mormon Church serves it community and takes loving care of its members.

I dispise the mumbo jumbo of your above comment. It sounds as the Pharisees must have sounded to our Lord, full of ambiguous 'human' made blather.

Our Father never leveled the conditions upon us that your leaders level against you.

17 posted on 09/01/2007 7:50:00 PM PDT by Republic (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity & Mark Levin have a genuine passion for our nation!)
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To: Republic
I love the way the Mormon Church serves it community and takes loving care of its members.

Thanks for the kind words. We try.

I dispise the mumbo jumbo of your above comment. It sounds as the Pharisees must have sounded to our Lord, full of ambiguous 'human' made blather.

Perhaps my explanation was not clear. In practice, there is little ambiguity.

Our Father never leveled the conditions upon us that your leaders level against you.

Alas, I have no idea what you mean.

18 posted on 09/01/2007 8:21:46 PM PDT by Logophile
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>>I’m not Mormon, but I do know that if you took speculation from the ministers and laypeople of any church and compared them against their official church doctrine it would be easy to find discrepancies.

>An excellent point.

So when we hear the Apostle Orson Hyde teach in the Journal of Discourses, the Mormon can ignore it?

From the article:
“Prophets have the right to personal opinions. Not every word they speak should be thought of as an official interpretation or pronouncement. However, their discourses to the Saints, and their official writings should be considered products of their official prophetic calling and should be heeded” (Teachings of the Living Prophets, p.21. Emphasis mine).

Is this personal opinion that Apostle Hyde taught, or official pronouncement? Is the Journal of Discourses what the Teachings of the Living Prophets is talking about, the products of their official prophetic calling?

Please bring me up to speed. I want to be corrected if wrong.


19 posted on 09/01/2007 8:50:55 PM PDT by Ottofire (Works only reveal faith, just as fruits only show the tree, whether it is a good tree. -MLuther)
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To: Logophile
Moreover, individual members may receive personal revelation to guide them in their particular callings and situations.

What exactly is a personal revelation to you? Is it a clear and vivid image that appears in your dreams? Are personal revelations open to interpretations or are they specific spoken directions from God?

20 posted on 09/01/2007 8:52:02 PM PDT by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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