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'Asian invasion' of faith (in MO) - Vietnamese Catholics celebrate Virgin Mary
Columbia Tribune ^ | August 11, 2007 | MARY T. NGUYEN

Posted on 08/12/2007 5:18:01 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 08/12/2007 5:18:23 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Each year, the Marian Days celebration draws thousands of Catholic Vietnamese-Americans to the southwest Missouri town of Carthage to honor the Virgin Mary. Vietnamese refugees credit the Catholic icon with protecting them as they fled Vietnam and made the transition into American life.
2 posted on 08/12/2007 5:20:13 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

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3 posted on 08/12/2007 5:40:56 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: freema

Funny. Carthage. Missouri certainly doesn’t bring Vietnam to mind. Will wonders never cease?


4 posted on 08/12/2007 7:07:40 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: NYer
Local story here.
5 posted on 08/12/2007 7:10:27 AM PDT by labette
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To: NYer

“’Asian invasion’ of faith (in MO) - Vietnamese Catholics celebrate Virgin Mary”

I’m not Catholic...but this works for me.
As I said after 9-11, I’m relatively more happy the USA is being
invaded by Catholics/Christians from south of the USA border...
not by Islamic hordes.

But at least in MO, there seems to be a desire to get an Islamic flod.
Hence the 40,000 to 50,000 Bosnian Muslims settled
by our guvmint in Greater St. Louis.

Heck, they even get their own Bosnian drivers manual

http://www.dor.mo.gov/mvdl/drivers/forms/
http://www.dor.mo.gov/mvdl/drivers/forms/bosguide.pdf


6 posted on 08/12/2007 7:19:12 AM PDT by VOA
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To: NYer
"dominated by Vietnamese pop acts like Trish Thuy Trang, a Vietnamese Christina Aguilera of sorts."

Christina Aguilera? Maybe the Christina that was a Mousketeer on Disney, lol.

http://www.myspace.com/trishtt

Here she is at a non-profit concert to raise money for lepers in Vietnam:



flakalita
7 posted on 08/12/2007 8:11:43 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: NYer

I have found that the local Viernamese and Korean Masses (as well as their faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ and the Mother of God, Mary) are alive and well. All very orthodox.


8 posted on 08/12/2007 8:14:59 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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How nice! Carthage, MO, is also the site of an occasional Civil War reenactment. It’s a convenient stop as you turn north up the west side of Missouri, towards Kansas City.

My pastor said we have the national convention of “Couples for Christ,” the Philippine pro-family organization, going on in Charlotte this weekend. He said Mass for them yesterday.


9 posted on 08/12/2007 9:53:07 AM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Norway delivers the Epilogue.)
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To: All; freema; NYer; fatima; ThanhPhero; angkor; ExTexasRedhead; Joy Angela; Calpernia; ...

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Behold from whence the Freedom-loving Vietnamese came,

...after a post-WATERGATE Democrat Congress cut-off all our funding for them to fight for their own Freedom with during the Vietnam War,

just like another Democrat Congress is pushing hard to do again the now Free Iraqi people in a new time of war with our own Freedom directly at stake right here at home:

Pictures of vietnamese Re-Education (SLAVE LABOR) Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806248/posts

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Nearly 100 years ago OUR LADY OF FATIMA appeared to warn us of a
coming world wide evil of Communism.

NEVER FORGET those who backed a Communist takeover of a then Free South Vietnam long ago:

HILLARY CLINTON
WILLIAM RODHAM
JOHN KERRY
TED KENNEDY
RAMSEY CLARK
JANE FONDA
TOM HAYDEN
JESSE JACKSON
..and all.

Do these names and their M.O. sound a bit familiar to you now..?

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10 posted on 08/12/2007 10:42:59 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: VOA
I’m relatively more happy the USA is being invaded by Catholics/Christians from south of the USA border...

Yes but keep in mind that some of those now crossing the southern borders of the US are Chaldean Catholics fleeing persecution in Iraq. The Catholic Church has asked the US government to open their borders more freely to these christians, the majority of whom have left everything behind and paid an exhorbitant sum of money to Muslim authorities in order to obtain an exit visa from their homeland. It is just a matter of time before the Holy Land falls completely into Muslim hands. May God have mercy on us all!

11 posted on 08/12/2007 3:12:04 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: VOA
I’m relatively more happy the USA is being invaded by Catholics/Christians from south of the USA border...

Yes but keep in mind that some of those now crossing the southern borders of the US are Chaldean Catholics fleeing persecution in Iraq. The Catholic Church has asked the US government to open their borders more freely to these christians, the majority of whom have left everything behind and paid an exhorbitant sum of money to Muslim authorities in order to obtain an exit visa from their homeland. It is just a matter of time before the Holy Land falls completely into Muslim hands. May God have mercy on us all!

12 posted on 08/12/2007 3:12:48 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
NEVER FORGET those who backed a Communist takeover of a then Free South Vietnam long ago:

Thank you for posting the list! These are names that will live in infamy.

Another thing I will NEVER FORGET are the images of the last flights out of Vietnam, packed with orphans. Those images will remain to my death bed. Their parents sought a better life for these children and, according to this article, it seems they found it here in the US.

13 posted on 08/12/2007 3:19:19 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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It seems to me that the Chaldeans go to Michigan (why?), while the Coptic Egyptians prefer New Jersey.


14 posted on 08/12/2007 3:30:46 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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As Christians the Chaldeans and Copts do not share the Moslem intent to convert, enslave, or kill the rest of humanity. As Christians they are not intent on skewing our own culture. As fervent believers, as most of them are, they will not sag onto the welfare rolls or change the ehnicity of the prison population, at least not the first generation or two, not until they become Americanized.


15 posted on 08/12/2007 4:14:00 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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I was there in 2000 when the 60k attendance doubled the previous year's due to the Millennium. They were prepared. Nobody in the world prepares for the crowds better than the monks at Carthage. And it helps that the people attending are neater than most folks. There was NO litter until the last day when it got to looking messy for an hour then the litter just disappeared. The portapots never got foul. There was sufficient electricity and water for all the campers on the grounds. Cameras left on car hoods and remembered two days later were still there. My wallet with several hundred dollars in it was still intact and very visible on the shelf in the shower a day and a half later when I finally remembered where I left it. There was beer around despite the signs forbidding it, but no one got rowdy or even noticeable. The only call for an emergency vehicle of any sort was due to a heart attack.The most interesting attendees, to me, were the old vets, who had been in SEA in the 50s and early 60s, and had brought back wives. They came with grandchildren.

This year several families went from my parish. I will try to go again next year. It helps that the celebration was moved to a week/10 days earlier because the schools here start in the middle of August now in the ongoing attempt of the NEA to get our kids away from us the whole year and families couldn't go for a couple of years.

16 posted on 08/12/2007 4:34:58 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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It seems to me that the Chaldeans go to Michigan (why?)

For more than 100 years, Michigan has been home to a large group of Arabic speaking immigrants, drawn there to work in the auto factories. There you will find not only the Chaldean Catholics, but also the Maronite Catholics and more than likely the Syrian Orthodox. Maronites like Tony Shaloub (Monk), Danny Thomas (and family) and Chaldeans like Joe Bidawid (world class professional sports boarder), all come from this community. Here is a photo frrom this year's Chaldean Catholic festival in MI. These Catholics are strong in their faith and proud of their heritage. Like many immigrants, they are intent on keeping their heritage alive.


17 posted on 08/12/2007 4:37:04 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: ThanhPhero
at least not the first generation or two, not until they become Americanized.

Interesting point. This is an issue not just for Middle Eastern or Viet Christians, but for any Christian immigrants. The Hmong communities, both Catholic and Protestant, are having problems with "assimilation" (the bad kind!) of their young people after a generation or two in the United States.

18 posted on 08/12/2007 4:37:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Norway delivers the Epilogue.)
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To: NYer

I have seen reports there may be more than 200 million Christians in China, many practicing their faith undergroud. Is this number realistic? More? Less?


19 posted on 08/12/2007 4:40:44 PM PDT by joebuck
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I did a Google on “China Christians Number,” and after looking at a few sites, came up with 100 million as an estimate. However, those were not all current sources, and it’s generally conceded that the number is growing rapidly. I would *guess* that 200 million is a little high ... but wait a few days :-).


20 posted on 08/12/2007 4:46:27 PM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Norway delivers the Epilogue.)
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