Posted on 07/20/2007 8:52:53 AM PDT by Between the Lines
LOUISVILLE, Ky. - Instead of taking offense at a recent Vatican statement reasserting the primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, evangelicals should seize the chance to respond with equal candor that “any church defined by the claims of the papacy is no true church,” according to a prominent Southern Baptist leader.
The Rev. R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, wrote on his blog that he appreciated the document’s clarity in voicing a key distinction between Catholics and Protestants over papal authority.
He said those differences are often forgotten “in this era of confusion and theological laxity.”
“We should together realize and admit that this is an issue worthy of division,” Mohler wrote.
“The Roman Catholic Church is willing to go so far as to assert that any church that denies the papacy is no true church. Evangelicals should be equally candid in asserting that any church defined by the claims of the papacy is no true church.
“This is not a theological game for children, it is the honest recognition of the importance of the question.”
This month, the Vatican released a document restating the contention that the Roman Catholicism is the one, true path to salvation. Other Christian communities are either defective or not true churches, the document said, restating the views of a 2000 document.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which Pope Benedict XVI headed before becoming pope, said it issued the new document because some contemporary theological interpretations of the Second Vatican Council’s ecumenical intent had been “erroneous or ambiguous” and had prompted confusion and doubt.
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LOL! I thought the same thing. I find the last part very funny as Catholics put more weight in confessions to their Priest than to one an other..
as opposed to protestants who refuse to confess anything (since they’re all free from guilt) and instead sing lame songs, preach a bunch of worldly garbage focused on the earthly life rather than the world to come, and read a bunch of poorly translated scriptures and then debate madly how they’re all self declared Popes and so they’re infailable in THEIR interpretation.
-A8
Hmmmm you'll have to let me know where you got this from, my Pastors take on Confession
http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/1985/488_Test_the_Spirits_to_See_Whether_They_Are_of_God/
Obviously we believe in Confession! and not the kind thats done in private and absolved by 10 rosaries
If you were to have an affair and go to him he would demand you go to your spouse and confess the sin to the person it was against! Christians are to confess to each other not some priest in an anonymous box.
instead sing lame songs, preach a bunch of worldly garbage focused on the earthly life rather than the world to come
Wow you have no experience in my church preaching on worldly things? Hell the fathers day service at our local Catholic service (I took my father) was about the Minnesota vikings and how the new priest knew some of them and was happy to be in Minnesota, at my Church is was deeply about Gods relation to us and how our families are to be a witness to his holiness!
and read a bunch of poorly translated scriptures
Yea cause the word was meant to be in a language nobody understands, lamp under a basket and all.
self declared Popes and so they’re infailable in THEIR interpretation.
Hmm I have never seen a pastor at my church claim infallibility, and I have never seen a member or elder claim anyone in the church is without failure. This is unlike the position of catholics who thing the pope is without error.
Look you are obviously so full of venom for those who do not bow to your church this discussion is quite pointless. You worship your Church more than your Christ!
I don’t politely sip tea while wolves profess heresies.
What Heresies are being professed on this thread?
sola-scriptura, schismaticism, iconoclasism, shall i go on?
I'm still marveling at your "Christ never mentions a book". Somehow you are trying to make an argument against believing the bible.
What’s this reading club thing?
Who claimed that apostolic succession per se guarantees any [particular] Church full protection against error? The Catholic Church does not teach that. It is not merely apostolic succession that protects the Holy See from doctrinal error; it is the conjunction of apostolic succession along with the unique charism given to St. Peter as rock upon which the Church is built and holder of the keys of the kingdom of heaven (Matt 16:19).
If Peter's See was to be more than greatest among equals, why only the holder of his See in Rome & not the holder of his earlier See in Antioch?
Because while St. Peter (it is believed) conferred upon Evodius the episcopate in Antioch, St. Peter conferred upon St. Linus in addition the keys of the kingdom of heaven before his [St. Peter's] martyrdom there in Rome. We can see the evidence for this already by contrasting the way in which St. Clement deals with the problems in Corinth, sending legates there, with the way St. Ignatius of Antioch speaks deferentially to the Church at Rome.
-A8
No. It’s not necessary, but our sacraments bestow grace on us. Grace helps me to act more like Christ.
-A8
no i am arguing against WORSHIPING the Bible and ignoring the wholeness of the revealed truth.
Sola-Sctiptura: Putting the word over traditions is heresy? I can understand disagreement but heresy? How is the Word of God to be put on par with the traditions of man and thats *not* heresy? Christ himself railed against Pharisees and their Traditions.
Schismaticism: My church lacks not for enforcement of solidarity. Nobody here has advocated for such a position, and leaving a Church because it is apostate is not herititcal but called for in scripture.
Iconoclasism: Not familiar with this one can you please expand?
You are really programmed away from the bible. You seem not to be aware that the bible mentions scripture and you use such terms as "worshipping the bible" about people who read and believe it. You even have coined a phrase about reading clubs which seems to mock people who read the bible. Satan has really done a number on you.
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