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Zimbabwe [Catholic] bishop accused of adultery
speroforum ^ | 17 Jul 07

Posted on 07/20/2007 2:44:57 AM PDT by Gamecock

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1 posted on 07/20/2007 2:44:59 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; P-Marlowe

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2 posted on 07/20/2007 3:15:16 AM PDT by Gamecock (FR Member Gamecock: Declared Anathema By The Council Of Trent and Wounded By The Current Pope)
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To: Gamecock
Archbishop Ncube has shown great courage in opposing the murderous Mugabe. His life must be in great danger. These accusations are certainly products of the Mugabe government.

Archbishop urges Zimbabwe invasion

3 posted on 07/20/2007 3:15:22 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark
These accusations are certainly products of the Mugabe government.

Or not.

4 posted on 07/20/2007 3:16:08 AM PDT by Gamecock (FR Member Gamecock: Declared Anathema By The Council Of Trent and Wounded By The Current Pope)
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To: WriteOn

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5 posted on 07/20/2007 3:36:13 AM PDT by Gamecock (FR Member Gamecock: Declared Anathema By The Council Of Trent and Wounded By The Current Pope)
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To: Gamecock

The posted article itself opines that the communist Mugabe government orchestrated the charges and made photos.

I won’t make light of possible adultery but it certainly pales next to the one million plus people who have been murdered/starved by Mugabe.

Apparently you view this adultery charge as some positive aid to anti-Catholic bigotry and are even willing to collaborate with communists in that cause. Incredible.


6 posted on 07/20/2007 3:43:10 AM PDT by iowamark
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I won’t make light of possible adultery but < change of subject>it certainly pales next to the one million plus people who have been murdered/starved by Mugabe..

So you think adultery is no big deal.

I seem to remember when FR Catholics thought there was nothing to the "rumor" that priests were having their way with alter boys.

Apparently you view this adultery charge as some positive aid to anti-Catholic bigotry

Me? A bigot? It might intrest you to know that for years I had my kids in a Catholic school.

and are even willing to collaborate with communists in that cause.

Riiight, let's bury our heads in the sand and ignore any accusations as long as it meets a political agenda. How many millions of dollars has this attitude cost the Roman Catholic Church over the past couple of years?

7 posted on 07/20/2007 3:51:05 AM PDT by Gamecock (FR Member Gamecock: Declared Anathema By The Council Of Trent and Wounded By The Current Pope)
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To: Gamecock

You wrote:

“Riiight, let’s bury our heads in the sand and ignore any accusations as long as it meets a political agenda. How many millions of dollars has this attitude cost the Roman Catholic Church over the past couple of years?”

Zero. Catholics did not ignore accusations for the sake of a “political agenda”. Can you show they did? If accusations were ignored, they were ignored for reasons of moral lapses, or simply the abandonment of common sense, not for political agendas.

Also, Archbishop Pius may or may not have committed adultery (he apparently denies it), but it is clear that these charges have ONLY COME UP NOW because of Mugabe’s political agenda.


8 posted on 07/20/2007 4:45:46 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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If accusations were ignored, they were ignored for reasons of moral lapses, or simply the abandonment of common sense, not for political agendas.

That would make it much more tolerable!!

9 posted on 07/20/2007 4:54:15 AM PDT by Gamecock (FR Member Gamecock: Declared Anathema By The Council Of Trent and Wounded By The Current Pope)
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To: Gamecock

You wrote:

“That would make it much more tolerable!!”

Nope. But at least I got the reasons right while you made up some bogus excuse. Try being accurate.


10 posted on 07/20/2007 4:56:06 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Gamecock
Mugabe's cronies are hauling him into court. It must be true < /s>

Actually, I wouldn't care if it was. The guy is a hero.

11 posted on 07/20/2007 4:56:20 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Live Earth: Pretend to Care)
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To: Gamecock

Is this supposed to be more interesting than the dictator’s mass-murder campaign over there?


12 posted on 07/20/2007 5:00:51 AM PDT by Mmmike
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To: vladimir998
Also, Archbishop Pius may or may not have committed adultery (he apparently denies it),

However, in an interview on state television, Archbishop Ncube said, "We all have weaknesses. That's why when we pray we always ask God for forgiveness.”

Pretty weak denial.

13 posted on 07/20/2007 6:03:05 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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What makes you think it was a denial rather than just a statement about the fact that we all have weaknesses?


14 posted on 07/20/2007 6:26:35 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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What makes you think it was a denial rather than just a statement about the fact that we all have weaknesses?

Actually I don't think it was a denial. It was a tacit admission.

15 posted on 07/20/2007 6:33:09 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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I wouldn’t be so sure, since the Archbishop’s lawyers say he will deny the charges in court.

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?from=rss_Africa&set_id=1&click_id=68&art_id=vn20070717110808167C693251


16 posted on 07/20/2007 6:45:38 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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Want to bet this is a set up.

The quote, "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?", comes to mind.

17 posted on 07/20/2007 6:52:13 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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OK, the Archbishop committed adultery and broke his vows.

And...........??

How about digging up some dirt on Milingo? That should be good for a few threads. Last I heard, he was shacked up again with his Moonie bride.

Keep us updated. As FR's "Catholic dirt" reporter of record, we're counting on you.

18 posted on 07/20/2007 6:54:02 AM PDT by marshmallow
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the Archbishop’s lawyers say he will deny the charges in court.

What is preventing the Bishop from denying it in public? Nothing.

I suspect that he will not deny the charges in court because the case will never go to court. It will be settled out of court.

Clinton's lawyers went out and claimed that Clinton did not rape Juanita Broderick. Clinton himself has never denied it. Clinton has always referred people to the statement his lawyers made.

19 posted on 07/20/2007 7:03:58 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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You wrote:

“What is preventing the Bishop from denying it in public? Nothing.”

Actually two things:

1) It shifts the focus from attacking Mugabe to defending the Archbishop. Bad strategy.

2) As a Christian he has to be willing to suffer scorn in silence when that is needed. It is the way of the saints after all. Mind you, I have no idea if the accusation is true.

“I suspect that he will not deny the charges in court because the case will never go to court. It will be settled out of court.”

In Mugabe’s little fiefdom under the lights of his TV station’s cameras? I’m not so sure about that. Mugabe is pushing this.

“Clinton’s lawyers went out and claimed that Clinton did not rape Juanita Broderick. Clinton himself has never denied it.”

For three reasons:

1) It was true - he raped her (all the evidence points toward that)

2) It looked beneath the dignity of the office to have Clinton deny it personally.

3) No one in the MSM really paid attention to Broderick.

“Clinton has always referred people to the statement his lawyers made.”

Again, we all know why.


20 posted on 07/20/2007 7:15:57 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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