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Vatican reiterates hardline on primacy of Catholic Church
Philippine Star ^ | 7/10/2007

Posted on 07/10/2007 6:03:29 AM PDT by markomalley

VATICAN CITY (AFP) - The Vatican set itself on a collision course with other Christian faiths Tuesday, reaffirming the primacy of the Roman Catholic Church in a corrective document designed to clear up recent "erroneous" doctrine.

The document's central claim that the Catholic Church is "the one true Church of Christ", is likely to revive a debate which has dogged the Vatican's dealings with other Christian faiths for decades.

Other Christian faiths "lack elements considered essential to the Catholic Church," it said.

The 16-page text -- released by the Vatican's doctrinal watchdog the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and ratified by the pope -- "constitutes a clear reaffirmation of Catholic doctrine on the Church," according to an attached commentary.

Basically a restatement of bedrock Vatican doctrine, its release was prompted "because some contemporary theological research has been erroneous or ambiguous," the commentary said.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; primacy; viniusinvictus
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To: outdriving

That would depend on how many legions of angels God has created. The Church is in this world but it is not of the world. Jesus could have been an earthly, militant, political leader if that had been God’s plan and was, in fact, expected to be by many. He had no military legions or divisions. The pope has the power of the Holy Spirit and that trumps all the divisions of the world.


61 posted on 07/10/2007 7:40:57 AM PDT by tiki
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To: markomalley

I’m not Catholic, but I appreciate that the Pope and the Church leadership is sticking to what it believes, rather than water their faith down.


62 posted on 07/10/2007 7:42:50 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: EarthBound
One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic bump....

When we do the Prayer of the Faithful in Mass, I skip that line.

And the woman behind me changes the word "Father" to "Creator." I wonder what the Creed would look like (We believe...) if we all deleted portions that we didn't like? Maybe something like the Protestant churches.

63 posted on 07/10/2007 7:42:59 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: markomalley; Marysecretary; ExtremeUnction; ripnbang; starlifter; CincinnatiKid; romanesq; ab01; ...
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64 posted on 07/10/2007 7:43:53 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: EarthBound

“When we do the Prayer of the Faithful in Mass, I skip that line.”

Why?


65 posted on 07/10/2007 7:44:47 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: EarthBound

As you have things decided for you about how you will worship and the words you use.


66 posted on 07/10/2007 7:45:22 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Aquinasfan
Actually "we believe" is a mistranslation of credo ("I believe"), which is corrected in the new translation.

But, yes, we are all supposed to believe the same thing.

67 posted on 07/10/2007 7:45:59 AM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: EarthBound

“As you have things decided for you about how you will worship and the words you use. “

That would be the Word of God, not the Pope.


68 posted on 07/10/2007 7:46:54 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: markomalley
Outstanding. This has Benedict's fingerprints all over it. I had always been sceptical of the appointment of Levada to the CDF, but was informed just last week by a knowlegable source that Levada's appointment was based purely on a long and trusting friendship, and that Benedict has not relinquished control of the CDF. Levada is merely a figurehead. This would seem to corroborate that opinion.

I never imagined that it would be possible for this pope to outshine his predecessor. It would appear that is happening.

The next time I am at a Catholic bookstore, I think I will purchase the biggest picture I can of His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI, so I can give him proper worship. :o) He hee.

69 posted on 07/10/2007 7:47:27 AM PDT by LordBridey
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To: DesScorp

God Bless you!


70 posted on 07/10/2007 7:47:36 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: topcat54; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; Frumanchu; HarleyD; ears_to_hear; Uncle Chip; OLD REGGIE; ...
"...Woe to thee, O land, which bears professed Papists and avouched Atheists, but cannot bear them who desire to abstain from all appearance of evil (1 Thess. 5:22); for truth and equity are fallen in thee, and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey..."

Amen. They've always taken names. And yet we have His promise...

"As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever." -- Isaiah 59:21

71 posted on 07/10/2007 7:47:42 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: EarthBound; Cap'n Crunch

It’s actually a lower-case “c” catholic in the creed. Not Catholic as in Roman Catholic, but catholic as in universal. Of course when the creed was written, all Chrisatians were Catholic...

/ducks for incoming, as I’m sure the usual trolls on Catholic threads will soon tell me this is not true, because they don’t know squat about church history


72 posted on 07/10/2007 7:50:25 AM PDT by cammie
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I’m a professed Papist. I trust that I’ll be seeing you in Our Lord’s arms. And smiling that both made it.

God Bless, FRiend!


73 posted on 07/10/2007 7:51:42 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: cammie

You mean that there are Trolls on Catholic threads?!?

I’m shocked, I tell ya. Shocked!


74 posted on 07/10/2007 7:53:23 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: topcat54
Christ alone is the head of His Church, not the "bishop of Rome" or any such pretender.

Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom of David to Peter alone. The keys represent the office of the vice-regent of the Davidic kingdom, as we see in Isaih 22. There was only one king of the House of David, and only one vice-regent. The vice regent actually wore a pouch around his neck which contained keys, which symbolized his office.

Isaiah 22:20-22

"In that day I will summon my servant, Eliakim son of Hilkiah. I will clothe him with your robe and fasten your sash around him and hand your authority over to him. He will be a father to those who live in Jerusalem and to the house of Judah. I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

Jesus is the eternal King of the House of David, and is "the power behind the keys."

Revelation 3:7

"To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open."

Jesus gives the keys of the eternal Davidic kingdom to Peter alone.

Matthew 16:18-19

"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."


75 posted on 07/10/2007 7:55:15 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: netmilsmom

Thank you, FRiend, and same to you. May the good Lord continue to be patient with both of us and all our shortcomings as He leads us home.


76 posted on 07/10/2007 7:56:32 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: markomalley

Odd headline for a newspaper in a deeply Catholic country. Is the virus of modernism now found in the Philippines, too?

It is illusory to believe that ecumenism means defining everything down to the least common denominator. That may be the way to please the leaders of the Episcopal Church—who will, however, promptly throw up new barriers to unity such as woman priests and homosexual bishops. But it won’t work for Evangelicals, for instance, who have no more interest than faithful Catholics in defining their religion down to nothing.

This will offend only secularists who pretend to be interested in a more tolerant version of Christianity, when what they really want is for Christianity to disappear. It will not offend a Baptist, for instance, who is certain to believe that he possesses the truth, so it doesn’t matter what the Pope says. Except that, in a strange way, it’s better to have a Christian pope than some kind of liberal modernist pope, even if you still think he’s may be the Antichrist.


77 posted on 07/10/2007 7:57:11 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sacajaweau
Sac, I think you might enjoy this anecdote about parochial school and the 1960 election.
78 posted on 07/10/2007 7:57:21 AM PDT by Cincinnatus
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To: netmilsmom

I know!! Who’da thunk it?!?!?!


79 posted on 07/10/2007 7:59:03 AM PDT by cammie
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To: cammie

Correct. Catholic is Universal. It is ONE Holy and Apostolic Church.


80 posted on 07/10/2007 8:02:32 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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