[Cvengr]

"God doesn't give a crap about bodies. Pre-tribulation rapture makes no sense spiritually."

I've found the opposite to be true on both accounts.

God cares even about the little sparrow and how it is provided for in its body. He still has scars from the Cross in His eternal body of the Son. The body of the Son though followed the will of the Son to remain true to the Father.

In regards to the spirit, the pretrib rapture makes very much sense if the Holy Spirit no longer indwells the believer during the Great Tribulation.

[Ping-Pong]

In regards to the spirit, the pretrib rapture makes very much sense if the Holy Spirit no longer indwells the believer during the Great Tribulation.

Please tell me the scripture that mentions the Holy Spirit won't be with us. I know I have read something about that but I can't find it.

Thank you.

[William Terrell]

Did He spare Moses pain in the desert? Did He spare any body of those He chose? Did He spare the body of Jesus? Even we know the toughening ability and spiritual developing nature of physical pain.

Even the Catholic church's saintifying process elevates pain in importance for becoming a saint.

A body is a temporary vessel for the spirit and soul; it always dies. Everlasting life is for the soul.

I repeat, God doesn't give a crap about bodies; He gives a crap about the state of the immortal living therein and its growth, which growth is always enabled by pain.