[William Terrell]

Did He spare Moses pain in the desert? Did He spare any body of those He chose? Did He spare the body of Jesus? Even we know the toughening ability and spiritual developing nature of physical pain.

Even the Catholic church's saintifying process elevates pain in importance for becoming a saint.

A body is a temporary vessel for the spirit and soul; it always dies. Everlasting life is for the soul.

I repeat, God doesn't give a crap about bodies; He gives a crap about the state of the immortal living therein and its growth, which growth is always enabled by pain.

[Cvengr]

I don’t follow the reasoning behind associating physical pain as developing our spirit. Our spirit is only sanctified by Him, and only while we remain in faith through Him by our strength of volition, again through faith in Him.

Pain might be an evidence of testing to discern our strength of volition and manifest by our hearts, but not to be confused as the act of sacrificing or making a payment for something. That was already performed by our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus, once and for all eternity.

We also possess a resurrection body. Nothing God creates is good for nothing, although by the volition of others they may scar what He has created to a point to where it is no longer useful for righteousness in His plan.

If God didn’t care about bodies, he wouldn’t go to as much trouble saving so many. He has created us body, soul, and spirit in Adam, and also in the Second Adam.

[Quix]

I repeat, God doesn’t give a crap about bodies;

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And I repeat . . . . yes and no.

The RESURRECTION indicates otherwise—transforming our bodies into a Heavenly body indicates otherwise.

All the reports and pertinent Scriptures indicate that we do not become per se . . . “merely” ethereal beings of light, energy

. . . contrary to Stargate SG1, new age mysticism, Buddhism, and all the rest such . . .

All the Heavenly visitations reported on remotely reliably as well as the relevant Scriptures indicate that God has for us Heavenly Bodies . . . and that they experience joy, pleasure, communion with God . . . Christ is often depicted in Heaven holding and carressing children . . . in their Heavenly bodies . . . not playing prism games with globes of light.

But . . . it’s all future with scant hard facts to pontificate about . . . certainly not with the certainty that you seem to hold so vigorously to about it.