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Confession booths go silent
The Times Union ^ | June 24, 2007 | MARC PARRY

Posted on 06/24/2007 12:58:20 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: Salvation

I would love to get my family to go once a month. As it stands now we go about 4 times a year. I know I need it more often and now that my husband is Catholic and can help us get there I think we’ll start making first Saturdays a family ritual.


41 posted on 06/24/2007 3:36:07 PM PDT by samiam1972 (http://imrunningforpresident.blogspot.com/)
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To: Salvation
Good bye, please fo not ping me again.

Uh, you pinged me first...Apparently it was alright then, when you were going to show ME something...

42 posted on 06/24/2007 3:36:18 PM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: NYer
Christ is the only mediator, but He was free to decide how His mediation would be applied to us. The Lord chose to use priests of God to carry out His work of forgiveness - John 20: 21-23.

I disagree with you...Jesus did not use priests...But he did commission the apostles, temporarily, to carry out the mission of remitting and retaining sins...

When Jesus was seated on the Heavenly Throne however, and the Holy Spirit showed up as the comforter and indwelt all believers, things changed...

43 posted on 06/24/2007 3:43:03 PM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: gcruse

Are you sure that he gave the wrong advice in regards to her being under spiritual attack? I’ve known bipolar people and they go off and on their meds and lead very chaotic lives. Meds don’t seem to me to be the solution. Most bipolar people are very edgy, very brittle, hard to deal with. They need God very much, need faith to give them the ability to discipline themselves without chemicals . . .


44 posted on 06/24/2007 3:43:29 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Iscool; Salvation; Frank Sheed
Jesus did not use priests...But he did commission the apostles, temporarily, to carry out the mission of remitting and retaining sins...

Temporarily?

When the crowds saw this they were struck with awe and glorified God who had given such authority to human beings.
Matthew 9:8

This verse demonstrates that Christ gave authority to men, including that of forgiving sins. You agree that he commissioned the apostles to carry out that mission. Where in Scripture is the gift of authority to forgive sins taken away from the apostles or their successors?

45 posted on 06/24/2007 4:04:30 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy
As Alex showed us last week, according to the RCC's own statistics, the ratio of child molestation is at least four times higher in the RCC than in Protestant churches.

Unfortunately, I was not around to be pinged to his argument and would welcome hearing it anew.

As the news article (linked above) indicates, it is far more difficult to 'tally' sexual abuse in the Protestant Church because of the proliferation of denominations (33,000+). The Catholic Church provides an easier model for insurance companies due to its centralized authority.

The frequency with which a lie is told does not make that lie more truthful.

To which lie are you referring? The Catholic Church has implemented measures to prevent child sexual abuse. What have the 33,000 Protestant denominations done? To whom are they accountable? As one involved in Catholic education, I had to pass a background check and attend training on sexual abuse. Does your Church do the same?

I'd be interested in your thoughts after seeing the recent documentary, "Deliver Us From Evil."

I have not seen this documentary. Who produced it?

46 posted on 06/24/2007 4:12:05 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Publius6961
I still consider myself a Catholic, for the record.

Then act like one! Otherwise you are no more than a Catholic "in name only". This is the Feast of St. John the Baptist who did not fear speaking the truth and paid for it with his life. This is also true today in the Middle East where Catholics are being persecuted. To attend Mass on Sunday is tantamount to taking one's life in their hands but they risk it all to attend the Sacrament of Confession and receive Jesus in the Holy Eucharist. Would you be willing to do the same?

I did not, nor do I now wish to get into a debate on the subject. I was simply offering one opinion addressing the subject of the thread. No more, no less.

This is a forum. When you post a comment, you should expect that it will be read and receive a response.

Good day to you, as well.

48 posted on 06/24/2007 4:20:39 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Iscool

You wrote:

“Well then...We need to change that scripture to make it fit:”

You don’t have to change the verse nor would it be moral to do so. What you need to do is properly understand the verse.

“Add a letter here and a word there, you can make it say whatever you want...But if you read the verse the ways it’s written, you can not avoid the fact that there is ONLY ONE mediator between men and God...Your church didn’t get invited...”

Again, I said there is only ONE mediator. That one mediator, Christ, shares His office. There is NO contradiction there. Christ is our judge, but the saints will also judge those left on earth at the end. So are there multiple judges? No. There’s one, but He shares that office with His saints.

“So you are not disputing that one...Good...”

I have never once disputed a verse of scripture. How about you? When Christ said, “This is my body” was He lying? I’ll bet you’ll now claim that verse is misunderstood now right?


49 posted on 06/24/2007 4:36:58 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: samiam1972

**I think we’ll start making first Saturdays a family ritual.**

That sounds wonderful. I went from where you are to every two months. Then to every two weeks. It seems the more I receive the forgivesness of God through the Sacrament of Reconciliation, the more acutely aware I am of when and how I sin. I intend to go again this next Wednesday. That will be once a week for the last three weeks. Looks like I am onto something here — at least for me.


50 posted on 06/24/2007 5:10:33 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Alex Murphy
Can't wait for the folks to come along stating that "oh, no! At the orthodox parishes people line up around the block to say confession."

As I say to the Catholic members of my family: "De-nial is not a river in Egypt!"

51 posted on 06/24/2007 5:12:59 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg



~ PRAYER ~

St. Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle
 Be our protection against the wickedness
and snares of the devil;
May God rebuke him, we  humbly pray,
 and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
 by the power of God,
 Thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits
who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls.
 Amen
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52 posted on 06/24/2007 5:13:31 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Clemenza

You have heard the stories of St. John Vianney, haven’t you. He had a clear view of when people did not make a complete and full confession and would tell them so — withold the absolution and tell them to go to the end of the line.

People would wait for days to go to confession to him.


53 posted on 06/24/2007 5:17:16 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: gcruse
I had a bipolar girlfriend

I don't believe you.

54 posted on 06/24/2007 5:28:44 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (A man who will not defend himself does not deserve to be defended by others.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I actually met her on FR. I’ll provide more if you want in freepmail.


55 posted on 06/24/2007 5:39:46 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Clemenza

You wrote:

“As I say to the Catholic members of my family: “De-nial is not a river in Egypt!””

At my parish it isn’t unusual at all for there to be a long line at confession on Saturday afternoon. I have been there when there were more than 25 people in line. Not bad for a parish of only a few hundred.

Then there’s confession AFTER Mass on Saturdays as well, and before Mass for just a few minutes on Sundays.

Our priest is 83 years old. He told us to today that he will push back our Latin Mass on Sundays by 15 minutes so that he can take a rest in between masses. He’s been the pastor there for 35 years. God bless him!

My old parish had Confession 8 times a week beginning 30 minutes before Mass and continuing right through most of the Mass.


56 posted on 06/24/2007 6:10:58 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Alex Murphy; Ross Jeffries; DieHard the Hunter; rogernz; victim soul; Rosamond; sfm; G S Patton; ...
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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to all note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

57 posted on 06/24/2007 6:25:06 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Publius6961

May Our Lord Bless and keep you.

He treasures the one lost sheep more than the 99, He told us that Himself. I hope that, as the years go on, your love of Our Lord increases and your final end is one of truth and beauty.


58 posted on 06/24/2007 6:31:26 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: ears_to_hear
We are told to confess our sins TO ONE AND OTHER

Do you do this? If so how often?

Please be honest.

59 posted on 06/24/2007 6:34:03 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: Clemenza

>>Can’t wait for the folks to come along stating that “oh, no! At the orthodox parishes people line up around the block to say confession.” <<

Well, I’ll say it if you like.
We have confessions 1/2 hour before every Holy Mass. 3 times a day and six on Sundays. Also 10 to 12:00 Sat. we are packed.
And we are a very orthodox parish.

At my old parish, we had communal penance. Yup, there was a full house. Only time they went.


60 posted on 06/24/2007 6:41:41 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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