Posted on 06/24/2007 12:58:20 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
Albany -- Saturday afternoon Mass at St. Catherine of Siena draws 400 people. The confession period beforehand draws two.
The second makes it just before closing time. It's been about three months since Mariam O'Brien's last confession, and a few days since she skipped Mass.
The 84-year-old shuts the door and enters a soothing room with a red carpet, a box of tissues and a priest, the Rev. Kenneth Doyle, who confesses that hearing confessions is one of his favorite duties. She steps out minutes later.
"I feel like the Lord is listening to me through the priest," O'Brien says outside the confessional, talking candidly with a reporter about things her priest is forbidden from saying to anyone. "I get consolation from it, and blessings."
This scene in Albany speaks volumes about the state of confession in America. The sacrament, once a pillar of Catholic practice, is crumbling. And the way people confess, both what they say and where they say it, is shifting from the old laundry lists of minor misdeeds recited in austere anonymous boxes.
Only 26 percent of Catholics go to confession at least once a year, according to a 2005 poll by Georgetown University's Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate. A University of Notre Dame study in the early 1980s put the number at 74 percent.
It's an alarming trend for Catholic leaders, who see confession as essential to spiritual health. What's at stake is a route, laid out in the Bible, to examine your conscience, overcome sin and achieve grace.
Signs of concern keep popping up. Pope Benedict XVI talked up the sacrament in at least three recent public appearances, even casting it in modern psychological terms as a remedy for "guilt complexes."
And earlier this year, the Washington Archdiocese tried to lure folks back to confession with a marketing campaign -- catch phrase: "The Light Is On For You" -- that slapped ads on buses and subway cars, and passed out how-to guides and wallet-size contrition cards.
Confession has become so foreign to so many Catholics that priests like Doyle keep sample acts of contrition on hand so sinners can read aloud words they once would have known by heart.
"In the old days the priest wouldn't help you," said the Rev. Gerald Mudd, 67, of St. Francis Chapel in Colonie. "You'd get hell if you didn't know it."
Doyle, also 67, remembers how it used to be when he and his buddies biked to Sacred Heart Church on Saturdays as kids in Troy.
The dark box. The screened-off priest. The second-grader's fear of that first confession.
Now confessionals are sometimes called reconciliation rooms. And sitting for an interview in the one at St. Catherine of Siena recently, Doyle estimated that 80 to 90 percent of penitents choose to come clean in a chair facing him rather than behind an optional partition. ("I have trouble kneeling anyway," one 78-year-old said.)
The Vatican approved this style in the 1970s. The idea was that worshippers, abandoning confession in droves, would find such sessions more meaningful.
"That option certainly didn't bring the large numbers back," said James O'Toole, a history professor at Boston College who studies confession.
An emerging confession style that is attracting interest -- and the scorn of Catholic leaders -- replaces the whisper of priests with the click-clack of computer keys. Protestant churches and secular groups have created Web sites that let users anonymously cyber-dish their confessions to the world.
And what confessions!
Nothing like the G-rated fare that Doyle, who doubles as chancellor for public information of the Albany Diocese, typically hears in his confessional. Those Catholics who still confess regularly "tend to be the ones who are most faithful to their obligations," he said.
So parishioners fess up to not praying enough or not being thankful enough for their blessings. Husbands regret failing to be understanding enough of wives. Parents lament not being patient enough with their kids.
"It's not very often that I meet some people that come in and say, 'I killed the guy next door,' " Doyle said.
You probably won't find any murderers coming clean on confession Web sites like the evangelical service www.mysecret.tv.
But you will find a husband who leads a double life of secret gay hookups. A man disgusted by his addiction to masturbation. A recovering drug addict who molested his little brother.
These Web sites are a new phenomenon. So why, to borrow O'Toole's phrase, has Catholic confession "fallen through the floor"?
"There's a cluster of things," O'Toole said. "People didn't like to do it. And once they stopped thinking that they'd go to hell if they didn't, they could kind of get out of the habit."
Ask Doyle the same question, and he points to one primary explanation: a diminishing sense of sin.
He feels our society chalks up misbehavior to psychological factors. Or socioeconomic influences. Or family upbringing.
"Anything," said Doyle, "but personal responsibility."
O'Toole also pointed to a new emphasis since the 1960s on the social dimensions of sin, the notion that sin isn't so much "I punched my sister" as it is things like racism, sexism and damaging the environment. Stuff that's generally harder to talk about in the confessional.
The professor added that rates of Communion skyrocketed after Vatican II in the 1960s, while rates of confession plummeted. Catholics, he said, got the idea that the Eucharist itself provided forgiveness. For minor sins, Doyle said, that's true.
All of that is much more complicated than the simple reason one parishioner offered for why she prays every night but hasn't confessed in at least 15 years.
"I feel like I don't need somebody between me and God," said Ginny Hartkern, 59, of St. Brigid's Church in Watervliet. "I think you can speak directly to God. You don't need an intermediary."
For those who do, the old ways live on at St. Mary's Church, incorporated in 1796 and the state's second-oldest Catholic parish. It doesn't get more traditional than these confessionals: the lacquered wood, the mustard-yellow curtains, the complete anonymity behind them.
And for parishioners like Ruth, who gave her age as "over 80," this is how confession should be. You remove the anonymity, she said, and "too much personality" gets involved. And doesn't looking at a priest change what you're willing to tell him? "They teach the kids now to go face to face," said Ruth, of Colonie, who did not want her last name published. "I prefer the way I have always gone, behind the screen."
For a newer twist, visit the commercial hub of Colonie's Wolf Road, where if you didn't read the sign you might mistake St. Francis Chapel for the nearby tanning salon.
Here in this strip mall, the Franciscan friars have figured out a two-step formula for keeping confession viable:
1. Make it available where the people are.
2. Be there for them all day.
Instead of just Saturday afternoons or by appointment, the friars are there for you weekdays, too.
They split the day into shifts that end at 7:30 p.m. This lets them hear an astounding volume of confessions by today's standards -- up to 50 a day.
They don't even have to wait in the box for penitents. Every time one enters the confessional, it triggers a sensor that rings a bell in the church office. This happened repeatedly during an interview with Mudd one recent afternoon. Each time, the brown-robed friar excused himself and slipped into the confessional through a back door.
A few minutes from St. Francis, but worlds away theologically, is Lifechurch.tv.
You won't find a confessional there. Most Sundays, you won't even hear a live sermon.
The tennis-bubble-like dome off Sand Creek Road is the "Albany campus" of an Oklahoma-based network of evangelical churches. Lifechurch beams the sermons of its senior pastor to screens at its far-flung member campuses.
Lifechurch launched the confession Web site www.mysecret.tv. Its users include Albany worship pastor Joe Dingwall, who was online in the church's dartboard-equipped office one day when others' confessions motivated him to post his own.
That we're-all-going-through-the-same-thing camaraderie is why Dingwall, 26, prefers sharing his sins online to airing them in a Catholic confessional, something he has tried despite not being Catholic.
Catholic authorities have condemned online confessionals. The Vatican advised bishops and priests not to use them three years ago, the reason being that "ill-intentioned people such as hackers" might read the confessions and use them for nefarious purposes like blackmail.
So is there any bright spot in the Catholic confession landscape?
Yes. Several Catholic priests agreed that the few people who still use the sacrament are using it really well.
Today's penitents are far more likely to talk about "sins of omission," as Doyle put it. People might lament their failures to put in enough effort at work, say, or to be generous with their money or time.
The Rev. Paul Smith, sacramental minister at churches in Altamont and Berne, said parishioners now delve into things like bigotry -- into the attitudes that underlie their misbehavior.
"They're willing to go deeper," he said.
So you are saying, then, that the apostles did not forgive sins in the Bible?
What about the Old Testament?
Indeed I did and you are quite welcome. And, Salvation, if this thread was labeled “Catholic Caucus” I would consider it appropriate to participate as something meaningful would come of it.
Instead, it is something else...
Frank
You are so right, I would have labeled it (Catholic Caucus), but I am afraid that is up to the poster at this point. It is an open thread as far as I know.
You asked why fewer people are going to confession. There are several reasons, but your second suggested answer, “due to a lessened sense of sin and need for repentance” is key.
Pius XII said, decades ago, “The sin of the century is the loss of the sense of sin”. This trend is well explained by Fr. Kenneth J. Roberts’ little book, No One Calls It Sin Anymore, (1997).
Protestants have been increasingly complaining about this trend to, but in a different ways precisely because they don’t see it showing up in shorter lines at the confessional. Among Protestants you’ll hear pastors and ministers complaining about their parishioners believing they don’t need the church, don’t need to repent (“God already forgave me so why bother?”), weakening the idea of what sin is (“Is it really doing something against God?”), and unilaterally, under their own authority declaring that this or that is not sinful (e.g. cohabitation). We can see all of this reflected in our daily language. People say “mistake” instead of “sin”. Yes, cheating on your wife is a “mistake,” but so is setting the microwave too long and burning your popcorn. One is a sin, the other is just a mistake. Today, they’re both describes as mistakes with only an occasional mentioning of “sinfulness.”
BTW, we are growing on the vocations. We definitely have one for the priesthood, and I see two more possibles talking with Father.
Also, our priest had to add another half hour of Reconciliation on Wednesday evenings! Things are looking up.
On special Reconciliation Services at Easter and Christmas we have them practically lining up out the front doors. It’s wonderful. I would wish such a problem on every Catholic parish!
God bless.
Thank you. No offense taken.
Looking back through recent history, you have probably noticed that many (Catholic or otherwise) now subscribe to the "I'm okay; you're okay" trend that predominates our society. Government legalizes a vice and the hapless no longer view it as a sin. Hence, your latter statement would be accurate. To cite an example: If the US Gov't has legalized abortion then it must be okay. It then becomes a mind game of justifying one's actions legally in the face of the Commandment that says: "Thou shall not kill!".
The Sacrament of Confession is based on Scripture John 20:22-23. It is a beautiful Sacrament - an opportunity to purge sin from the soul. Sad that more Catholics do not avail themselves of it. There are no more beautiful words than those of the priest in Confession: "I absolve you of your sins, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit"
The usual false proof-texting from Protestants:
“1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”
Yep, Jesus is the one mediator. He shares that office with others, however, and in that office He granted the Apostles and the Church authority. Next!
“Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.”
Yep, and one way to do that is through confession. God gave it to us so we should use it whenever we need it.
Next!
Actually, the problem of child sexual abuse is far more pervasive in the Protestant Church. However, due to the 33,000+ denominations, it has been difficult to pin down until now. The Catholic Church has taken legal steps to prevent any further occurences. Who will guide the Protestant Churches in applying similar measures?
Protestant Churches Report 260-Plus Child Sex Abuse Cases A Year
What about the Old Testament?
There are no apostles in your church...We are all priests in the New Testament Church...The priests giving blood sacrifices were done away with in the 1st Century...
Jesus became the One sacrifice for all...
I watched Scott Hahn on the tv early this morning...He quoted that verse:
Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
After he quoted it, he claimed that once for all didn't really mean once, for all...
I chuckled out loud over that one...What a theologian...
On the contrary, the Sacrament of Confession was instituted by Jesus Christ and is in Scripture.
John 20:21 - before He grants them the authority to forgive sins, Jesus says to the apostles, "as the Father sent me, so I send you." As Christ was sent by the Father to forgive sins, so Christ sends the apostles and their successors forgive sins.
John 20:22 - the Lord "breathes" on the apostles, and then gives them the power to forgive and retain sins. The only other moment in Scripture where God breathes on man is in Gen. 2:7, when the Lord "breathes" divine life into man. When this happens, a significant transformation takes place.
John 20:23 - Jesus says, "If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven. If you retain the sins of any, they are retained." In order for the apostles to exercise this gift of forgiving sins, the penitents must orally confess their sins to them because the apostles are not mind readers. The text makes this very clear.
See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1855577/posts?page=30#30 for the scriptural references.
Good bye, please fo not ping me again.
The Early Church Fathers on Confession / Reconciliation - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Christ is the only mediator, but He was free to decide how His mediation would be applied to us. The Lord chose to use priests of God to carry out His work of forgiveness - John 20: 21-23.
Well then...We need to change that scripture to make it fit:
“1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one many mediator(s) between God and men, along with the man Christ Jesus;”
Add a letter here and a word there, you can make it say whatever you want...But if you read the verse the ways it's written, you can not avoid the fact that there is ONLY ONE mediator between men and God...Your church didn't get invited...
“Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.”
Yep, and one way to do that is through confession. God gave it to us so we should use it whenever we need it.
So you are not disputing that one...Good...
The frequency with which a lie is told does not make that lie more truthful.
As Alex showed us last week, according to the RCC's own statistics, the ratio of child molestation is at least four times higher in the RCC than in Protestant churches.
I'd be interested in your thoughts after seeing the recent documentary, "Deliver Us From Evil."
I did not, nor do I now wish to get into a debate on the subject.
I was simply offering one opinion addressing the subject of the thread. No more, no less.
Have a nice day.
Visions of a David Lynch movie...
lol. Or Kubrick.
That's the same transformation that happens to all of us Christians...
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
And praise God for that...We have the same Holy Spirit in us that the Apostles had in them...Amen...
Yes, Kubrick. (If the shot were symmetrical.)
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