Americanism, Then and Now: Our Pet Heresy (encyclical of Pope Leo XIII)

Chronicles Magazine ^ | June 13, 2007 | Christopher Check

[Youngstown]

Ping.

[redgolum]

What is interesting is that the Lutheran’s (and that includes the ELCA) and the RCC have similar and lower divorce rates. I suspect that part of it is that often both have rather in depth pre marital meetings with the priest/pastor.

That and in the more “conservative” parts of both confessions (for lack of a better term), we are really not an “American” church. We still do things differently than the mega church down the road.

[neb52]

The pre marriage counseling and understanding of the meaning of evangelizing each other I think helps the longevity of marriage. Other practices like NFP increase communication in the relationship, which furthers closeness.

[TAdams8591]

Brief but good summary. Well said.

[TAdams8591]

There can be no cohesion in a society or a church if individualism is carried to an extreme, which is decidedly one of the major problems in our church and our country, today.

And as we discussed before, Youngstown, we do have an obligation to help one another save our souls and eventually get to heaven.

[Thorin]

>>>>>>>>Chronicles Magazine is an execrable publication.

It's the best opinion magazine published in America. And most of its editors are serious Catholics.

Of course, you just can't stand the fact that Chronicles (together with John Paul II) was right about Iraq, and your neoconservative heroes were wrong. Chronicles predicted well before we invaded Iraq that our invasion would be a calamity for Iraqi Christians, as indeed it has been. But the welfare of Christians in the Middle East (or anywhere else) has never been a major concern for the neocons.

I also find it interesing that you ping an anti-Catholic like "Zionist Conspirator" over this.

[livius]

Americanism was called that because it was a trend that reached its fullest flowering here, although it was actually a form of modernism that originated, probably, in France (where else?).

There is the well known principle of American exceptionalism, which is not a bad thing in itself, but it did extend in the minds of some American Catholics to their religious life, as well. But an American Catholic is no more permitted than any other to announce that he is free to disobey the moral teachings of the Church because, well, it feels good. So Americanism is actually just a form of European modernism, but the form found in the United States did have a certain component of the “we Americans are special” attitude, hence, the name Americanism.

[wideawake]

It's the best opinion magazine published in America.

That's your opinion of this particular magazine. I disagree with your assessment strongly - and I note that it is an opinion magazine that coincides almost entirely with your personal political preferences: you have no perspective at all in assessing it.

And most of its editors are serious Catholics.

So people are fond of claiming. Reading the magazine, you would guess it was a joint venture run by the Serbian Orthodox Church and antiwar.com.

Of course, you just can't stand the fact that Chronicles (together with John Paul II) was right about Iraq, and your neoconservative heroes were wrong.

Both this silly magazine and the late Holy Father of happy memory objected to the war, but on different grounds.

John Paul II was not a Lindbergh clone and he wasn't too worried about whether America was abandoning the vision of Gerald L.K. Smith.

Chronicles predicted well before we invaded Iraq that our invasion would be a calamity for Iraqi Christians, as indeed it has been.

LOL! As opposed to the long, joyous celebration the Hussein regime was for Iraqi Christians.

But the welfare of Christians in the Middle East (or anywhere else) has never been a major concern for the neocons.

More veiled anti-Semitism from an opponent of "the neocons." How surprising.

I also find it interesing that you ping an anti-Catholic like "Zionist Conspirator" over this.

I replied to him, I did not ping him.