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Protestants generally don't see that their own argument isn't completely consistent. There may be no particular virtue in repeating the same prayer over again, but Protestants will cheerfully pray the "Our Father..." weekly and daily throughout their lives anyway. Many Protestants are taught that "true" prayer is spontaneous and from the heart, expressed in one's own words or wordless desires -- but if that were literally followed at all times, we'd all be praying like Quakers, who only pray as they feel "inspired" to do so. But in fact, most Protestant worship services do include standard, pre-written prayers in which everyone is expected to join. I was brought up, for instance, saying one that begins "Almighty and merciful Father, we have erred and strayed from thy ways like lost sheep...." every Sunday without fail.

Most Protestants do not say the "Our Father" Let alone repeat it over and over.
I have to wonder if he was ever really a protestant.

35 posted on 06/05/2007 1:56:44 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: ears_to_hear

One of the most eye opening and prayer enhancing things I ever heard was the our father laid out as a framework for prayer.

E.G.

1) Our father who art in heaven hollowed be thy name: Start your prayers by first Glorifying God
2) Thy kingdom come thy will be done ...: As Jesus did submit yourself first to gods will firstly and what follows secondly
3) Give us this day our daily bread: Here bring your request, request which are hopefully motivated by the spirit not (oh God I would like a Ferrari)
4) And Forgive us our trespasses: Confess your wrongs to the lord, seek out sin in your life
5) As we forgive those who trespass: Ask for help in forgiving offenses you may hold against others
6) the kingdom and honor and glory: Again praise God...

In terms of a frame work this in incredibly more powerful than just repeating a prayer you learned in ccd or Sunday school


36 posted on 06/05/2007 2:18:25 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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“Most Protestants do not say the “Our Father” Let alone repeat it over and over.
I have to wonder if he was ever really a protestant.”

And most catholics cannot find the Lord’s prayer in the Bible.


37 posted on 06/05/2007 2:20:06 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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Quite true. Plus, praying the model prayer and meaning it is a far cry from the repetition of Hail Marys. Unless they want to admit Mary is near deity in the eyes of Catholicism, which I doubt any would be bold enough to say.


69 posted on 06/05/2007 3:44:40 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: ears_to_hear
Most Protestants do not say the "Our Father" Let alone repeat it over and over.

Perhaps we don't "repeat it over and over", but almost every Protestant service I've ever attended has included the Lord's Prayer. I would say that most Protestants do say it. I don't believe that saying a prayer in the same way that Jesus taught us is vain and repetitious. If you repeat something as though it were some magical incantation, without any thought as to meaning, I might agree, but I don't think that's the case with most folks when they say these words. In fact, for me, the Lord's Prayer is often a way for me to begin to talk to God, when too many times my own words fail me.

79 posted on 06/05/2007 4:12:39 PM PDT by Flo Nightengale (long-time lurker)
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To: ears_to_hear
Most Protestants do not say the "Our Father" Let alone repeat it over and over. I have to wonder if he was ever really a protestant.

I say it pretty much every day, but not over & over again. I've no poetry in my heart, so most of my prayers are far from elegant.

150 posted on 06/05/2007 6:12:33 PM PDT by GoLightly
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