. . every time she shouted, "FIRE!"
They only answered, "Little liar."
And therefore, when her Aunt returned,
Matilda, and the house, were burned.
- "Matilda, Who Told Lies and Was Burned to Death."
Posted on 06/05/2007 10:53:58 AM PDT by Frank Sheed
I am saying that Roman Catholicism exalts Mary to a status that is very much godlike. It calls on them to pray TO her. Through its teachings are pre-written prayers, they petition her for things such as her protection and provision. And, in popular practice and sometimes official doctrine she is given titles of God such as Mediator. Advocate. Redeemer. (all with the appendage of “co” included of course, but the point stands). NOWHERE does Scripture tell us to treat Mary in the way that the Catholic church treats her. So, in answer to your question, bad at worshipping her? No. Refusing to admit. Yes.
I didn’t mean to imply that you did live on wine. I don’t eat very much in the form of solids, so I do live on beer, however.
Cheerios and Chablis is an acquired taste, but not bad.
;-o)
Pretzels.
I'm sorry, friend, but that claim is unbelievable.
Sandy, vain and vanity are not the same words, they have different meanings, vain means empty , useless as in "he tried in vain to do something".
In the case of vain repetitions the greek is translated
1) to stammer 2) to repeat the same things over and over, to use many idle words, to babble, prate. Some suppose the word derived from Battus, a king of Cyrene, who is said to have stuttered; others from Battus, an author of tedious and wordy poems.
The pagans often used mantras much like people use in yoga or other hindi practice.
Things like the rosary qualify as vain repetition. Catholics admit they are not really consecrating on the prayers, but are meditating on the "mysteries." The words are simply repetitive from memory if that is true.
Did your family worship and pray together? Did your family teach you scripture and talk about God to you?
Well it is true.
I think it may be used in some of the non Catholic liturgical churches, but not in Protestant churches.
We prefer to approach the throne of God with our words :)
. . every time she shouted, "FIRE!"
They only answered, "Little liar."
And therefore, when her Aunt returned,
Matilda, and the house, were burned.
- "Matilda, Who Told Lies and Was Burned to Death."
Are you a protestant . Where do you go to services?
** not really consecrating**
I don’t think any of us can consecrate anything. That is the job of the priest.
I think you probably mean concentrating.
And, no, the prayer of the Rosary is not in vain. You have no idea of the benefits of saying the Rosary. For instance, have you ever heard the story about keeping the Muslims away by saying the Rosary? I will post the links in the next post to you.
Please do not try to put words into the mouths of Catholics and assume what we believe according to Catholic tradition.
Plus there are a gazillion “Scripture Rosary” pamphlets that have a different Scripture verse after each Hail Mary! Or, for those not interested in the Hail Mary, why not say only ONE and then pray completely to God using the Divine Mercy Chaplet shown here:
http://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/mercy/dmmap.htm
The ideal is not the constant repetition of a mantra. For those who say the Rosary prayerfully (or the Divine Mercy), it is to enter into a Meditation on scenes from the Life of Christ or to lift our minds to God. It is actually a very Christological devotion and the addition of the Luminous Mysteries by John Paul II made it even more so!
Lepanto, 1571: The Battle That Saved Europe
Celebrating the Battle of Lepanto
Clash of civilizations: Battle of Lepanto revisited
Lepanto, Bertone e Battesimo, Oh My!
Our Lady of the Rosary of La Naval (A Mini-Lepanto in the Philippines)
Swiss Guards at the Battle of Lepanto, 7 October 1571
LEPANTO, 7 OCTOBER 1571: The Defense of Europe
On This Day In History, The Battle of Lepanto
Call to Prayer 12:00 EST 17 November: This Lepanto Moment [Read only]
You're merely speculating with no data, and in point of fact you're wrong. (I hope you really mean "concentrating" and not "consecrating".)
If you say the Rosary in the Bavarian manner (as I was taught to do years ago), the Mystery goes into the pause in the Hail Mary, and you say it aloud so that it changes the meaning and is part of the recitation. So the Hail Mary changes with every decade.
And the Canon of Scripture is listed on page? Darn, I can't seem to find it. Could you help?
They have their own vain repetitions they do with their prayer beads.
Your comment does not respond to the issue. You said it has "value" in response to my misspelled comment on the fact that Catholics say that they are meditating on the mysteries so that would be where their focus was, not on the "prayer" itself. How beneficial you see it as does not respond to that issue
Please do not try to put words into the mouths of Catholics and assume what we believe according to Catholic tradition.
When you say the rosary are your thoughts directed to Christ and the mysteries of His life and death or are they on Mary as you mouth the words.
Who is the center of your meditation Christ or Mary?
(i) A social religion
We don't gather together to get everything handed to us by people who claim that God put them in charge for our protection. It is the journey together that gives meaning & as we work & struggle things out together in love, the message to love one another takes on the greatest meaning. It's not difficult to love those who agree with you about everything. Maintaining love when there is disagreement is more difficult, but not after bringing in our love for God first & above everyone & everything else.
Those of us in the YIPOS camp may have some or most everything "wrong", but none of us think that we're done yet or that we'll be done trying to figure it all out before we draw our last breath. Does God want us to know everything correctly or does He want us to remain engaged, engaged with each other with Him at the center?
Yes, beer and pretzels is a good, solid meal.
Since when are those not Protestant churches?
Who did those miracles God or Mary? Did God NEED Mary to do them? Whos is getting the glory?
I meditate on both.
BTW, did you read any of the links and find out how the Rosary saved Europe from being invaded by the Moslems?
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