Posted on 06/01/2007 6:12:31 AM PDT by pby
Edited on 06/01/2007 6:55:53 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Is Mormonism Christian?
A Comparison of Mormonism and Historic Christianity Copyright © 1999 Institute for Religious Research. All rights reserved.
Is Mormonism Christian? This may seem like a puzzling question to many Mormons as well as to some Christians. Mormons will note that they include the Bible among the four books which they recognize as Scripture, and that belief in Jesus Christ is central to their faith, as evidenced by their official name, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Furthermore, many Christians have heard the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sing Christian hymns and are favorably impressed with the Mormon commitment to high moral standards and strong families. Doesnt it follow that Mormonism is Christian?
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Bush left the Episcopal Church to join his wife's United Methodist...
What is the difference?
People quote Mormon prophets and leaders and the discussion ends.
From the golden salamander to the holy underwear, they are not Christian
Well, have it your way. But your interpretation does not square with other things that President Hinckley has said.
I took his comment as a figure of speech, meaning nothing more than that we have knowledge about Jesus Christ that others lack. He mentioned specifically the First Vision, in which God the Father and Jesus Christ spoke to Joseph Smith.
But as I said, have it your way. I am really not interested in bickering with you on this.
This first, in context, may refer to the fact Christ will cover all sins of his people (save blaspheming the holy spirit). I would appreciate a source on the second quote please..
Was Smith 14 or 16?
Why do the statements of the LDS leaders always have to be interpreted?
It seems pretty clear that he said that it is not the same Christ.
The golden salamander was a Mark Hoffman fraud...the underwear was not.
You must take all of the above-posted Brigham Young quotes as a figure of speech then, too.
Ask them about the magic underwear...
Not yet ANOTHER Mormons ain't Christian thread!
How am I EVER gonna get to reply to Evolutionists at THIS rate??
No, people quote (and misquote) Mormon leaders, interpret their statements, and insist that Mormons accept their interpretations and defend them. When Mormons present a different view, the original posters ignore it and go on to the next attack.
Just once, it would be nice if anti-Mormons would acknowledge that Mormons really do know what they believe, and why. It would be nice too if anti-Mormons would occasionally admit, however grudgingly, that they have misunderstood Mormonism.
I am not going to hold my breath until that happens.
Is Mormonism Christian?
This may seem like a puzzling question to many Mormons as well as to some Christians.
Mormons will note that they include the Bible among the four books which they recognize as Scripture, and that belief in Jesus Christ is central to their faith, as evidenced by their official name, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Furthermore, many Christians have heard the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sing Christian hymns and are favorably impressed with the Mormon commitment to high moral standards and strong families.
Doesnt it follow that Mormonism is Christian?
Is Islam Judeo-Christian?
This may seem like a puzzling question to many Muslims as well as to some Judeo-Christians.
Muslims will note that they include the Bible along with the Quran which they recognize as Scripture, and that belief in Jesus Christ is central to their faith, as evidenced by their call HIM a Prophet in the Quran.
Furthermore, many Judeo-Christians have used Arabic numerals in ALL their calculations and are favorably impressed with the Islam commitment to high moral standards and strong families.
Doesnt it follow that Islam is Judeo-Christian?
Just like this reply in post #117 you refuse to address Jesus Christ Church by its proper name.
The Church of Latter Day saints refers to its self as the Mormon Church.
Funny you didn't know that
I know how the Prophet instructed the Saints how the name of the Church should be address.
It is your choice to be to be respectful or not the LDS has no say over what you do with your agency!
Nor can the LDS control the press they too know the proper name yet as quickly revert to the name Mormon
Gordon B. Hinckley, president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints the proper name for the Mormon faith told reporters in a national gathering of religion writers: No one believes more literally in the redemption wrought by the Lord Jesus Christ. No one believes more fundamentally that He was the Son of God, that He died for the sins of mankind, that He rose from the grave, and that He is the living resurrected Son of the living Father. All of our doctrine, all of our religious practice stems from that one basic doctrinal position.
Latter-day Saints believe that divine apostolic authority was lost from the earth following the death of Jesus Christ and His ancient apostles, resulting in a need for a restoration of that authority. Members believe it was divinely restored to the earth in the 19th century, in what the Church terms the latter days hence the term Latter-day Saints for members of the Church today.
This belief in the restoration of the gospel and priesthood authority distinguishes the Church from Protestant faiths and their origins.
Cheers!
I daresay that every statement that everyone makes must be interpreted.
It seems pretty clear that he said that it is not the same Christ.
Do you really think that President Hinckley meant that there are literally two different beings who are called Jesus Christ? If so, then I cannot see how we can have an intelligent discussion on this.
You must take all of the above-posted Brigham Young quotes as a figure of speech then, too.
I must? I do not see why.
I also do not see the point of continuing this. Have a good weekend.
It is dishonest because it asserts that we teach in private that all non-Mormons are not Christians. That is simply not true.
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself adelivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I bsaw two cPersonages, whose brightness and dglory defy all description, estanding above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the otherThis is My fBeloved gSon. Hear Him!18 My object in going to ainquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)and which I should join.19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those bprofessors were all ccorrupt; that: they ddraw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the gpower thereof.20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself alying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, bmother inquired what the matter was. I replied, Never mind, all is wellI am well enough off. I then said to my mother, I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.
Nice try though, to get the two groups fighting amoungst themselves, thereby ignoring the elephant in the room.
I thought that I’d head out to the official church site and see what they officially believed.
There have been charges in FR (some well validated) that there have been statements about others that don’t reconcile with the facts. I thought I’d copy and paste some facts.
No way!!
Them Uniytoonians merely ignore Scripture...
...we add to it!
--MormonDude
How is it an "attack" to post exact Brigham Young quotes out of the Journal of Discourses?
Is Brigham Young so out of line with the teachings of today's LDS that his exact quotes "attack" the organization he once presided over?
How did that happen (Young never uttered an incorrect teaching...so he said)?
Do you not accept Brigham Young's teachings, uninterpreted, based on his accurate quotes?
Did Brigham Young not really know what Mormons believed/believe?
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