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Is Mormonism Christian?
Institute For Religious Research ^ | 1999 | Institute for Religious Research

Posted on 06/01/2007 6:12:31 AM PDT by pby

Edited on 06/01/2007 6:55:53 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Is Mormonism Christian?

A Comparison of Mormonism and Historic Christianity Copyright © 1999 Institute for Religious Research. All rights reserved.

Is Mormonism Christian? This may seem like a puzzling question to many Mormons as well as to some Christians. Mormons will note that they include the Bible among the four books which they recognize as Scripture, and that belief in Jesus Christ is central to their faith, as evidenced by their official name, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Furthermore, many Christians have heard the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sing Christian hymns and are favorably impressed with the Mormon commitment to high moral standards and strong families. Doesn’t it follow that Mormonism is Christian?

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To: kidd
You are right...

Bush left the Episcopal Church to join his wife's United Methodist...

What is the difference?

141 posted on 06/01/2007 11:13:33 AM PDT by pby
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To: Logophile
Yep...It is.

People quote Mormon prophets and leaders and the discussion ends.

142 posted on 06/01/2007 11:15:21 AM PDT by pby
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To: pby
Mormonism is a cult, albeit a respectable cult in many ways.

From the golden salamander to the holy underwear, they are not Christian

143 posted on 06/01/2007 11:15:53 AM PDT by piceapungens
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To: pby
I took it as Mormons believe that they worship the true Christ and Christians worship a false Christ based on false beliefs.

Well, have it your way. But your interpretation does not square with other things that President Hinckley has said.

I took his comment as a figure of speech, meaning nothing more than that we have knowledge about Jesus Christ that others lack. He mentioned specifically the First Vision, in which God the Father and Jesus Christ spoke to Joseph Smith.

But as I said, have it your way. I am really not interested in bickering with you on this.

144 posted on 06/01/2007 11:18:22 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: bremenboy

This first, in context, may refer to the fact Christ will cover all sins of his people (save blaspheming the holy spirit). I would appreciate a source on the second quote please..


145 posted on 06/01/2007 11:20:14 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: Logophile
Which of the nine versions of the First Vision?

Was Smith 14 or 16?

Why do the statements of the LDS leaders always have to be interpreted?

It seems pretty clear that he said that it is not the same Christ.

146 posted on 06/01/2007 11:21:25 AM PDT by pby
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To: piceapungens

The golden salamander was a Mark Hoffman fraud...the underwear was not.


147 posted on 06/01/2007 11:23:22 AM PDT by pby
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To: Logophile

You must take all of the above-posted Brigham Young quotes as a figure of speech then, too.


148 posted on 06/01/2007 11:24:44 AM PDT by pby
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To: conserveababe
The acid test is that both Islam and Mormonism claim a relationship with a "being of light". No one wants to explain to them that lucifer translates into 'being-of-light' since they don't have ears to hear or eyes to see the truth.
149 posted on 06/01/2007 11:26:06 AM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Ask them about the magic underwear...


150 posted on 06/01/2007 11:28:20 AM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: BibChr

What!?!?!

Not yet ANOTHER Mormons ain't Christian thread!

How am I EVER gonna get to reply to Evolutionists at THIS rate??

151 posted on 06/01/2007 11:30:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pby
People quote Mormon prophets and leaders and the discussion ends.

No, people quote (and misquote) Mormon leaders, interpret their statements, and insist that Mormons accept their interpretations and defend them. When Mormons present a different view, the original posters ignore it and go on to the next attack.

Just once, it would be nice if anti-Mormons would acknowledge that Mormons really do know what they believe, and why. It would be nice too if anti-Mormons would occasionally admit, however grudgingly, that they have misunderstood Mormonism.

I am not going to hold my breath until that happens.

152 posted on 06/01/2007 11:30:41 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: pby

Is Mormonism Christian?

This may seem like a puzzling question to many Mormons as well as to some Christians.

Mormons will note that they include the Bible among the four books which they recognize as Scripture, and that belief in Jesus Christ is central to their faith, as evidenced by their official name, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Furthermore, many Christians have heard the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sing Christian hymns and are favorably impressed with the Mormon commitment to high moral standards and strong families.

Doesn’t it follow that Mormonism is Christian?


Gosh, I don't know.  Let's see if THIS works as well:

Is Islam Judeo-Christian?

This may seem like a puzzling question to many Muslims as well as to some Judeo-Christians.

Muslims will note that they include the Bible along with the Quran which they recognize as Scripture, and that belief in Jesus Christ is central to their faith, as evidenced by their call HIM a Prophet in the Quran.

Furthermore, many Judeo-Christians have used Arabic numerals in ALL their calculations and are favorably impressed with the Islam commitment to high moral standards and strong families.

Doesn’t it follow that Islam is Judeo-Christian?


153 posted on 06/01/2007 11:37:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bremenboy
No bremenboy that is you wanting it your own way as many like you do!

Just like this reply in post #117 you refuse to address Jesus Christ Church by its proper name.

The Church of Latter Day saints refers to its self as the Mormon Church.

Funny you didn't know that

I know how the Prophet instructed the Saints how the name of the Church should be address.

It is your choice to be to be respectful or not the LDS has no say over what you do with your agency!

Nor can the LDS control the press they too know the proper name yet as quickly revert to the name Mormon

Gordon B. Hinckley, president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — the proper name for the Mormon faith — told reporters in a national gathering of religion writers: “No one believes more literally in the redemption wrought by the Lord Jesus Christ. No one believes more fundamentally that He was the Son of God, that He died for the sins of mankind, that He rose from the grave, and that He is the living resurrected Son of the living Father. All of our doctrine, all of our religious practice stems from that one basic doctrinal position.”

Latter-day Saints believe that divine apostolic authority was lost from the earth following the death of Jesus Christ and His ancient apostles, resulting in a need for a restoration of that authority. Members believe it was divinely restored to the earth in the 19th century, in what the Church terms “the latter days” — hence the term “Latter-day Saints” for members of the Church today.

This belief in the restoration of the gospel and priesthood authority distinguishes the Church from Protestant faiths and their origins.

Cheers!

154 posted on 06/01/2007 11:37:42 AM PDT by restornu (Matt.10:16 Lord's sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye wise as serpents & harmless as doves ~ Mitt 08)
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To: pby
Why do the statements of the LDS leaders always have to be interpreted?

I daresay that every statement that everyone makes must be interpreted.

It seems pretty clear that he said that it is not the same Christ.

Do you really think that President Hinckley meant that there are literally two different beings who are called Jesus Christ? If so, then I cannot see how we can have an intelligent discussion on this.

You must take all of the above-posted Brigham Young quotes as a figure of speech then, too.

I must? I do not see why.

I also do not see the point of continuing this. Have a good weekend.

155 posted on 06/01/2007 11:39:15 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile
 

It is dishonest because it asserts that we teach in private that all non-Mormons are not Christians. That is simply not true.


 
Sadly,  the below IS true!   These assertions are STILL in force by the LDS organization!
 
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself adelivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I bsaw two cPersonages, whose brightness and dglory defy all description, estanding above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My fBeloved gSon. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to ainquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those bprofessors were all ccorrupt; that: “they ddraw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the gpower thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself alying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, bmother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.” 

 
 
 
 

156 posted on 06/01/2007 11:40:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Enosh

Nice try though, to get the two groups fighting amoungst themselves, thereby ignoring the elephant in the room.


157 posted on 06/01/2007 11:41:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P-Marlowe

I thought that I’d head out to the official church site and see what they officially believed.

There have been charges in FR (some well validated) that there have been statements about others that don’t reconcile with the facts. I thought I’d copy and paste some facts.


158 posted on 06/01/2007 11:41:32 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
From reading this, you would think that Mormons were like Unitarians.

No way!!

Them Uniytoonians merely ignore Scripture...

...we add to it!

--MormonDude

159 posted on 06/01/2007 11:42:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Logophile
There are no interpretations attached to the above-posted Brigham Young quotes (no misquotes) (that you have yet to comment on).

How is it an "attack" to post exact Brigham Young quotes out of the Journal of Discourses?

Is Brigham Young so out of line with the teachings of today's LDS that his exact quotes "attack" the organization he once presided over?

How did that happen (Young never uttered an incorrect teaching...so he said)?

Do you not accept Brigham Young's teachings, uninterpreted, based on his accurate quotes?

Did Brigham Young not really know what Mormons believed/believe?

160 posted on 06/01/2007 11:43:08 AM PDT by pby
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