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OY! Can he gush over these CINOS any more obviously?
1 posted on 05/03/2007 3:00:11 PM PDT by Terriergal
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Baptist ping.

James L. Evans, a syndicated columnist, also serves as pastor of Auburn First Baptist Church.

50 bucks says it's an American Baptist affiliated church. At the very least, they are very likely NOT in the Southern Baptist fold...
2 posted on 05/03/2007 3:07:52 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: Terriergal

“Emergent Christians have serious doubts about doctrinal ideas which hold that some are in and some are out — that is in or out with God.”


Serious doubts?

THAT WHICH IS NOT FAITH, IS SIN.


4 posted on 05/03/2007 3:20:37 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Terriergal

They see the movement as resurgence of old mainline liberal theology.

liberal theology = renounced as heresy by both Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI.

This mess is in the Catholic Church too.


8 posted on 05/03/2007 3:28:39 PM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Terriergal
In fact, so great is the diversity of forms within Christianity, it may be more appropriate to refer to them in the plural — Christianities.

One wonders why he doesn't become part of the Emerging church movement? There has always been ONE faith and view of God. Every view that does not conform to this one view is corruption and heresy. It is our job to seek out the correct view of God and discard the rest.

He should read Pilgrim Progress.

13 posted on 05/03/2007 3:50:08 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Terriergal

What is this? Another form of religious socialism brewing? Liberal theology refers to which: the fairly benign 19th century liberalization movement; or the 20th century "liberation theology" bastardization of scripture to hew to Marxist ideology? Hard to tell exactly how bad this is judging only from this article full of rump kissing.

14 posted on 05/03/2007 3:50:55 PM PDT by M203M4 (Constitutional Republic has a nice ring to it - alas, it's incompatible with the communist manifesto)
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To: Terriergal
The emphasis here for emergent Christians is on serving and being generous. They think it is more important to live and act in faithful ways rather than obsessing about what we should believe.

No they don't. They just talk about it and try to get others to be generous. All their money goes towards movie admissions, coffee and beer. They live and act like a bunch of people impressed with themeselves. When it comes down to actually caring about actual people, they don't. In fact they hate them in the worst way. They help them into hell.

19 posted on 05/03/2007 4:08:00 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Terriergal

Emergent Church is Seeker Sensitive/Church Growth Movement Version 2.0

This is their vector:

the desire to be “relevant”.

Sit back and watch where that takes them.


31 posted on 05/04/2007 12:27:16 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Satan just keeps recycling the same old ideas. The only difference I can see between socially conscious “emergent’ christians (why did I not capitalize that?) and main-line protestant churches, such as the Episcopalians, is a matter of style, not basic theology.
33 posted on 05/04/2007 6:16:16 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: Terriergal
For instance, one of the central concerns of the emergent Christian movement is the desire for their faith community to be all-inclusive — to welcome the stranger.

Interesting, as though your garden-variety conservative flocks (e.g. Southern Baptist, Assembly of God, various reformed denoms) DON'T welcome the stranger.

This concern has resulted in high tolerance for people of other faiths.

Hmmm....Define "tolerance".

Emergent Christians have serious doubts about doctrinal ideas which hold that some are in and some are out — that is in or out with God.

Ahhh, now we're getting to the crux of the matter...It sounds to me like some (most?) within this movement want to deny that Jesus is THE ONLY way to salvation. Huge problem.

34 posted on 05/04/2007 6:47:11 AM PDT by opus86
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To: Terriergal
Emergent Christians hear Jesus' words, "Whoever is not against us is for us," as a challenge to find ways to include rather than exclude others. This means, of course, that emerging Christians are not very evangelistic — at least in the traditional sense. For the most part we will not find them trying to convert people from one faith to another or from no faith to their faith.

One can use this verse (Mark 9:40) to support fellowship between denominations that call on the name of Jesus, but NOT to deny bringing the Gospel to the lost - or to those of 'no faith', as the author puts it..
They have no love for the lost. Just love for the world and the praises of men.

Mark 9

37 Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.
38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.
42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

So somehow the 'emergent fellow' latches onto the 'he that is not against us is on our part' verse, and ignores the facts that:
A) The person who was not 'against us' was preaching the name of Jesus!
B) The entire context of this section is doing things in the name of Jesus and believing in HIM. This is a message to evangelize -- to bring the cup of the living water, in HIS Name, to His children (and since only HE knows who are HIS, we are to bring it where ever we are able).

To twist these verses to justify not bringing the Gospel to others is to cut off the water that we are to bring and it is to 'offend'(verse 42).

43 posted on 05/04/2007 12:33:53 PM PDT by El Cid (Seek ye the LORD while He may be found, call ye upon HIM while He is near.)
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To: Terriergal
For instance, one of the central concerns of the emergent Christian movement is the desire for their faith community to be all-inclusive — to welcome the stranger. This concern has resulted in high tolerance for people of other faiths. Emergent Christians have serious doubts about doctrinal ideas which hold that some are in and some are out — that is in or out with God.

ECM=Postmodernism in sheep's clothing.

48 posted on 05/05/2007 11:06:38 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: Terriergal

Where does “sin no more” fit into liberalism.


65 posted on 05/08/2007 5:13:20 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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