Posted on 04/27/2007 7:00:56 PM PDT by fgoodwin
Please ping your Scouting list.
Girl Scout Ping
Say, what are you calling me?
Never mind!
Don't tell that to the Marines. Semper Fi.
So what alternative do I have for my seven year old girl? If I trust the local leaders is it ok? or do I bail? Just Damn!!!
Will not buy Girl Scout cookies for that reason — and that I support Camp Fire.
In regards to singing hymns, If they “can’t or” ‘Hallehlujah, wouldn’t it be the same?
All three of my daughters have been in Girl Scouts for years. We’ve had no problem with any of leaders or experiences they have had.
As with many other activities, involved parents will do a lot to set the tone.
If you want a good Scouting program for your son or daughter, then you can help assure it through serving as a troop, pack, crew, or den leader or assistant leader. That goes double -- or perhaps quadruple or more -- for the Girl Scouts these days. The second-best option is to KNOW your daughter's leader.
The disclaimer is: having a conservative troop and den may not solve all of your problems if your daughter's troop goes to a Girl Scout summer camp. All of my knowledge is second-hand and anecdotal, but I've spoken with conservative Girl Scout leaders who were appalled by the percentage of openly lesbian staffers at camp -- college women and older who paired up at summer camp, shared tents, and walked around holding hands and displaying other signs of public affection.
Of course, not every Girl Scout summer camp is like shipping your daughter to the Isle of Lesbos ... but I've never heard of ANY Boy Scout camp that was like sending your son to Fire Island.
My wife was Troop Leader for my daughter’s troop from K through sixth grade. Then we moved, and my daughter was never as interested in GS as she was earlier.
The new Troop Leader was LDS, so I wasn’t too concerned about feminist issues, but because she was LDS, she never took the girls camping, and I think that’s what killed my daughter’s interest.
She stayed in long enough to get her Silver Award, but she quit before getting her Gold.
She grew up to be a liberal (cinema major), but I’m very proud of her.
I’ve been a Brownie leader for my daughter’s troop the past two years. Certainly there are some “odd” goings-on you occasionally hear about at the upper organizational levels of Girl Scouts USA, but Girl Scout troops are largely a local venture. I attend Unit meetings, but other than that, my troop is about the girls. We’ve made crafts, tried cooking, gone camping, done service projects, etc. I’ve never run into any sort of anti-religious sentiment. If there were to be any discussions about something of a sensitive nature, Girl Scout policy requires parental permission.
Our Promise, which we repeat (along with the Pledge of Allegiance) every meeting, goes as follows:
“On my honor, I will try; To serve God and my country, To help people at all times, And to live by the Girl Scout Law.” The Girl Scout Law states: “I will do my best to be honest and fair; friendly and helpful, considerate and caring, courageous and strong, and responsible for what I say and do, and to respect myself and others, respect authority, use resources wisely, make the world a better place, and be a sister to every Girl Scout.” Hardly subversive stuff.
I was a Daisy and Brownie leader for my second daughter, and I’ll be leading Brownies for my third daughter in the fall. For our oldest daughter (now a Senior Girl Scout) I’ve been treasurer, driver, taught crafts, helped at meetings, etc., and my husband has also been involved in teaching the girls outdoor skills.
If parents, particularly fathers, are involved with their daughter(s) - may I suggest homeschooling? - lesbians are really just not on the map. My oldest read a book where a character was revealed to be a lesbian, and said, “Yuck!” I pointed out that, given the character’s fictional experiences, it wasn’t at all surprising that she’d be a psychological disaster area, including same-sex attraction. “Good point!” says my oldest, and the subject is closed.
Realistically, the much greater threat to our girls’ moral and physical health and future success is relationships with boys. That’s where they’ll get chlamydia or AIDS or pregnant, as well as the lifelong emotional scars that contribute to the growing popularity of lesbian relationships. In my experience, Girl Scouts helps girls develop the skills, interests, and confidence to resist the premature sexual relations that start in *elementary school* these days. I want my daughters to be able to say, “I don’t need a boyfriend, because I have a LIFE!” until they’re mature enough to say, “I’m ready to share the rest of my life with a man of good character and mature religious commitment.” (Say, the senior patrol leader of my sons’ Boy Scout troop :-).
Last comment: Although I agree that the Boy Scouts organization has kept to conservative values and traditional morality better than the Girl Scouts, you still have to watch what’s happening at the Pack or Troop level. I got a call recently from a man wanting to move his son to my husband’s Pack (at our church) from a Pack based at the boy’s school. The father said that his main concern was that many of the Den leaders were single mothers, and they were bringing their boyfriends on camping trips and sharing tents with them. This is not only inconsistent with our Christian morality, but also a violation of BSA policy and a safety risk for the boys. Parents have to be *very* alert!
Do you have a Little Flowers group in your area?
http://members.aol.com/eccehomopr/lfgchome.htm
The Boy Scouts now have a program called "Venturing" which is co-ed in nature and focuses on "High Adventure" activities. Venture Scouts must be at least 14, and they can participate as youth members until 21.
As you would expect with BSA, there are strict rules for how the camping is conducted. I don't have a daughter, but I've always thought that if I did, I'd feel better about letting her go camping with Boy Scouts than I would if she went on a car date with a typical boy alone.
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The Girl Scouts is an empty shell of what is use to be. Liberals screw up everything.
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