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Mormons: We're misunderstood
DAILY PRESS & ARGUS ^ | April 26, 2007 | Dan Meisler

Posted on 04/26/2007 6:03:35 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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1 posted on 04/26/2007 6:03:35 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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“We believe God does talk to man,” Briscoe said. “He chooses one prophet at a time.”

Wow. Is it not great that he is LDS.


2 posted on 04/26/2007 6:26:55 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Here we go again.


3 posted on 04/26/2007 6:39:45 AM PDT by Logophile
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"Sometimes people would say that we're not Christians," he said. "We definitely are. We believe in Jesus Christ."

The reason people say that is because Mormons do not believe in the Trinity, which is one of the bedrock doctrines of Christianity: requiring not only a belief in Christ but in Christ as the second of Three Persons of a single Godhead.

Plus the doctrine of polytheism sets it light years apart even from non-Trinitarian Christians.

4 posted on 04/26/2007 6:56:34 AM PDT by Claud
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We believe in Jesus Christ

So do the Muslims. Meaningless statement.

5 posted on 04/26/2007 7:06:28 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Utah Girl; DelphiUser; sevenbak; tantiboh; nowandlater; Rameumptom; Saundra Duffy; ...

LDS ALERT!:)

6 posted on 04/26/2007 7:47:16 AM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: Alex Murphy

Hi Alex !:)


7 posted on 04/26/2007 7:48:26 AM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: svcw; colorcountry; FastCoyote; imjustme; MHGinTN; needlenose_neely; Pan_Yans Wife

Misunderstood mormon ping


8 posted on 04/26/2007 8:05:32 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Waiting impatiently for a conservative party to rise from the ashes of the wimpy republican party.)
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To: svcw
“We believe God does talk to man,” Briscoe said. “He chooses one prophet at a time.”

Well, if Briscoe actually said that (one can never be sure with newspapers) he is confused.

We believe in continuing revelation from God, yes. However, we do not believe that God speaks only to one prophet at a time.

In fact, anyone who can testify of Jesus Christ is a prophet, for "the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy" (Rev. 19:10).

We also believe that individuals can receive revelation through the Holy Ghost to guide them through life. That includes guidance to fulfill their callings in the Church. Thus, a bishop can receive revelation to guide the ward over which he presides.

What I think Bishop Briscoe was saying is that God chooses one man at a time to receive revelation to guide the entire Church. That man is the President of the Church, often called "the Prophet" by the members.

9 posted on 04/26/2007 8:08:44 AM PDT by Logophile
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The reason people say that is because Mormons do not believe in the Trinity, which is one of the bedrock doctrines of Christianity: requiring not only a belief in Christ but in Christ as the second of Three Persons of a single Godhead.

Mormons do believe that Christ is the second person of the Godhead. What we do not accept is the traditional Trinitarian doctrine of three persons in one being.

Plus the doctrine of polytheism sets it light years apart even from non-Trinitarian Christians.

There is no doctrine of polytheism in Mormonism. Polytheism is the worship of many gods, usually considered as representing the forces of nature. Mormons worship God the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

10 posted on 04/26/2007 8:17:57 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: aimhigh
We believe in Jesus Christ So do the Muslims. Meaningless statement.

Muslims believe that Jesus Christ was a prophet. Mormons believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, our Lord and Savior.

11 posted on 04/26/2007 8:22:24 AM PDT by Logophile
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.... let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet,” for our salvation hangs on them.

First: The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.

Second: The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.

Third: The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.

Fourth: The prophet will never lead the Church astray.

Fifth: The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.

Sixth: The prophet does not have to say “Thus saith the Lord” to give us scripture.

Seventh: The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.

Eighth: The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.

Ninth: The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.

Tenth: The prophet may be involved in civic matters.

Eleventh: The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.

Twelfth: The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.

Thirteenth: The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.

Fourteenth: The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed; reject them and suffer.

~Ezra Taft Benson, Thirteenth President and Prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.


12 posted on 04/26/2007 8:22:49 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: colorcountry
Thanks for that summary.
13 posted on 04/26/2007 8:26:13 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile

My apologies if I have misunderstood. But by “second person of the Godhead”, that usually implies 2 persons in 1 Divine Being. You seem to have no problem with the 2 persons, is the one God/Being that is the point of contention?

On the polytheism charge, perhaps my word choice was inexact..sorry about that. Could you explain whether there are multiple gods in Mormonism and whether or not they merit the same adoration that we reserve for God the Father? I’m sketchy on how all this shakes out.


14 posted on 04/26/2007 8:30:34 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Logophile

How does HE become your Lord and Savior?


15 posted on 04/26/2007 8:36:38 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: svcw
We believe in Jesus Christ

The Demons believe.

16 posted on 04/26/2007 8:38:58 AM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel Provides What The Law Demands)
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And they can quote Bible verses. Oh ya they also know who HE is.


17 posted on 04/26/2007 8:46:37 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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You offered (to assist BIshop Briscoe): "What I think Bishop Briscoe was saying is that God chooses one man at a time to receive revelation to guide the entire Church ... That man is the President of the Church, often called "the Prophet" by the members."

Does that mean that the Pope is a dual authority with the current president of the Mormon religion? Do we have two religions lifting up Christ, by dual authority, or is there one which is more authorized than the other?

18 posted on 04/26/2007 8:51:37 AM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: svcw
Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, 12th Prophet/President of the Church didn't seem to understand the importance of the atonement of our Savior. Did Christ pay for forgiveness of sins or not?

"Your Heavenly Father has promised forgiveness upon total repentance and meeting all the requirements, but that forgiveness is not granted merely for the asking. There must be works--many works--and an all-out, total surrender, with a great humility and 'a broken heart and a contrite spirit.' "It depends upon you whether or not you are forgiven, and when. It could be weeks, it could be years, it could be centuries before that happy day when you have the positive assurance that the Lord has forgiven you. That depends on your humility your sincerity, your works, your attitudes." (Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, 324-325)

19 posted on 04/26/2007 8:52:16 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: colorcountry

Wow, that’s pretty culty.


20 posted on 04/26/2007 8:53:47 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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