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Easter and Passover have coincided every year since 2000.

The early church sought to hide Passover with their calculations.

But Yah'shua has revealed His Word in these latter days.

b'shem Yah'shua

1 posted on 03/30/2007 4:41:10 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012
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2 posted on 03/30/2007 4:47:22 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Thanks for posting this....I'll ignore the idiots


3 posted on 03/30/2007 4:49:22 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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Of course there's a connection between Easter and Passover--a typological connection. The Church Fathers and Bible commentators have been making that point for almost 2000 years.

But Jesus was crucified on a Friday afternoon. He and the two thieves were taken down and buried late that afternoon, so as not to violate the Passover Sabbath, which began at sundown that day. And Jesus rose again on the third day, which was a Sunday morning--Easter.

The Last Supper was a kind of Passover meal. But it was celebrated on Thursday night, the evening before the Jews celebrated Passover. Jesus had entered Jerusalem for the Passover, as he had done with his family every year ever since he was a little boy. But presumably anticipating His death on Friday, He celebrated what amounts to the fulfillment of the Passover meal (in Christian eyes) a day early.

Easter also became associated with springtime and the rebirth of life that occurs then. That might be thought pagan, but it is part of the natural cycle of life, as decreed by God in Genesis after the Flood. The religious calendar and the natural agricultural calendar of the seasons are related at several points. And why not, since God created nature?


4 posted on 03/30/2007 4:51:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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How long will it take for this thread to be backroomed?

I was raised a certain way, but when I was about 20 or so, I found myself on a different path.

One thing that I have learned over the years is that the counsel of the Bible, (Collosians 2:8 for example) to "beware the traditions of men" does not carry much weight among most folks.


5 posted on 03/30/2007 5:00:42 PM PDT by Radix (Reasonable people often can and do disagree.)
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The Christian church needs to rename the day called Easter. "Resurrection Day" better says it and says it all!


7 posted on 03/30/2007 5:05:04 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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Start of Passover = Sundown Nisan 15, 5767 [Hebrew] = Sundown on Monday, April 2, 2007 [Gregorian]. Passover lasts for either 7 or 8 days, depending on the sect.

Here is the correlation between Gregorian Easter and the first day of Passover, from Gregorian year 2000 through 2009 (ignoring the 1/4 of the Hebrew day that overlaps the previous Gregorian day):

2000:
    Passover: 
        Thu, 5760 Nisan 15 [Hebrew]
        Thu, 2000 April 20
    Easter: April 23, 2000

2001:
    Passover:
	Sun, 5761 Nisan 15 [Hebrew]
	Sun, 2001 April 8
    Easter: April 15, 2001

2002:
    Passover:
	Thu, 5762 Nisan 15 [Hebrew]
	Thu, 2002 March 28
    Easter: March 31, 2002

2003:
    Passover:
	Thu, 5763 Nisan 15 [Hebrew]
	Thu, 2003 April 17
    Easter: April 20, 2003

2004:
    Passover:
	Tue, 5764 Nisan 15 [Hebrew]
	Tue, 2004 April 6
    Easter: April 11, 2004

2005:
    Passover:
	Sun, 5765 Nisan 15 [Hebrew]
	Sun, 2005 April 24
    Easter: March 27, 2005

2006:
    Passover:
	Thu, 5766 Nisan 15 [Hebrew]
	Thu, 2006 April 13
    Easter: April 16, 2006

2007:
    Passover:
	Tue, 5767 Nisan 15 [Hebrew]
	Tue, 2007 April 3
    Easter: April 8, 2007

2008:
    Passover:
	Sun, 5768 Nisan 15 [Hebrew]
	Sun, 2008 April 20
    Easter: March 23, 2008
 
2009:
    Passover:
	Thu, 5769 Nisan 15 [Hebrew]
	Thu, 2009 April 9
    Easter: April 12, 2009

9 posted on 03/30/2007 5:17:47 PM PDT by sourcery (Government Warning: The Attorney General has determined that Federal Regulation is a health hazard)
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Should we confuse the supposed Biblical experts with inconvenient facts? Few care that the sola scriptura of the Reformation really just exchanged the post-Nicean Roman authority for the pre-Nicean dogma of equally confused "church fathers." When disconnected from the root, the branches tend to think that they are what supports everything.

The history of "easter" is the most documented, and most ignored paganization of the faith and practice of Scripture that ever existed. Most "christians" just unknowingly quote Plato and "spiritualize" their error.

Don't confuse them with the facts. As for me and my house... we will keep the Feast next Monday night. We will eat unleavened bread for seven days... just like our Master did. We remember...
11 posted on 03/30/2007 5:22:17 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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Thanks! I believe you are correct....

Some believe Yeshua was crucified on Wednesday, and I am persuaded..

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13 posted on 03/30/2007 5:22:51 PM PDT by fahraint (git theah fuhstest with the mostest)
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I remember when I visited Israel.

I saw lots of churches. One church said it was on the very site where Jesus was born.

Another church said it was on the very site where Jesus was buried.

I remember think that it was not so important to know where exactly Jesus was born or where exactly Jesus was buried.

What was far more important -- to me, anyway -- was to know that Jesus was born and that Jesus died and was buried -- and that he was resurrected.

So, whether Jesus died on a Friday or on a Wednesday, isn't terribly important -- to me, anyway.

14 posted on 03/30/2007 5:30:11 PM PDT by Bob Loblaw
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15 posted on 03/30/2007 5:42:45 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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Here is an older thread

Why Should Christians Keep the Passover?


16 posted on 03/30/2007 5:47:54 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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Man, no one wants to read this Judaizer bunk.

2 things: Just because some Christian symbol or rite is similar to something that was or is pagan does not mean that it too is pagan. I mean, it's just basic logic. Buddhists might use incense. It doesn't mean that Catholics are Buddhists because we use incense.

Simply put, Easter celebrates Christ. It celebrates no one else.

Second, the whole eymology argument against Easter is silly. It's called Pascha or something similar in most languages other than English.
19 posted on 03/30/2007 8:53:04 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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Chuck Missler? Isn't he the guy who was caught stealing passages from someone? Didn't he steal from Edwin Yamaguchi?

Missler in "Magog Invasion" (1995) (p. 51): "The name Scythian designates a number of nomadic tribes from the Russian steppes, one group of which invaded the Near east in the 8th and 7th centuries B.C. After being repulsed from Media, many of the later Scyths settled in the fertile area of the Ukrain north of the Black Sea. Other related tribes occupied the area to the east of the Caspian sea."

Yamaguchi in "Foes from the Northern Frontier" (1982) (pp. 63-64): "The name Scythian designates a number of nomadic tribes from the Russian steppes, one group of which invaded the Near east in the eighth and seventh centuries B.C. After being repulsed from Media, many of the later Scyths settled in the fertile area of the Ukrain north of the Black Sea. Other related tribes occupied the area to the east of the Caspian sea."

Missler in "Magog Invasion" (p. 54): "Herodotus indicates that the Scythians were active in Media southwest of Lake Urmia. It is also evident in the Assyrian texts that the Scythians were active directly south of the lake. A spectacular discovery of treasure of Ziwiye in this area now offers corroborative evidence of the Herodotus accounts."

"Ziwiye is 25 miles east of Modern Sakkea in Kurdistan in northwest Iran. The name Ziwiye may preserve the Akkadian name Zibie (Izibie), a site attacked by Sargon II in 716 and by Ashurbanipal in about 665."

Yamaguchi in "Foes from the Northern Frontier" (1982) (pp. 72-73): "Herodotus indicates that the Scythians were active in Media southwest of Lake Urmia. It is also evident in the Assyrian texts that the Scythians were present in Mannean territory directly south of the lake. (See maps 4 and 6.) A spectacular discovery of treasure of Ziwiye in this area now offers corroborative evidence of the Scythian presence."

"Ziwiye is located 25 miles east of Modern Sakkea in Kurdistan in northwest Iran. The name Ziwiye may preserve the Akkadian name Zibie (Izibie), a site attacked by Sargon II in 716 and by Ashurbanipal in about 665."

The Calvary Chapel Frequently Unanswered Questions page has more examples of Missler's cheating!

Also, wasn't Missler one of those nuts who got all worked up about Y2K? Poof! Nothing happened.


27 posted on 03/31/2007 4:00:06 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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52 posted on 04/01/2007 12:06:11 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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"Messiah Yeshua," "Adonai Yeshua"


63 posted on 04/01/2007 2:09:41 PM PDT by zerosix
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