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1 posted on 03/25/2007 12:52:45 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 03/25/2007 12:54:06 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Penance is similar to a hangover, and in more than one way - for, like a hangover, it ends in drinking more of the same stuff used the evening before.


3 posted on 03/25/2007 12:59:31 PM PDT by GSlob
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Bah. This article is pushing those "communal penance" services:

"Now what we're offering before Christmas and Easter is a communal confession time," Manning said. "We have several priests there, and we share a reflection on Scripture, then people will share one or two of their sins."

"Sharing one or two of your sins" doesn't count as a good confession. So what's the point?
11 posted on 03/25/2007 1:25:52 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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17 posted on 03/25/2007 1:36:36 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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They seem to be unaware that going to a "communal penance service" is basically just preparation for going to individual confession. Communal penance is not a magic wand. I think the Bishop needs to do a bit more catechesis in that diocese!


19 posted on 03/25/2007 1:37:37 PM PDT by livius
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We had over 150 people at our Lenten Penance Service. Not bad for a small church! Seven priests!


55 posted on 03/25/2007 9:14:04 PM PDT by Salvation (" With God all things are possible. ")
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Communal confessions are illicit.


57 posted on 03/25/2007 10:18:33 PM PDT by dangus
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Just visited Krakow.

Amazing.

Every church had a few priests hearing confessions all day long - and always people in line waiting.

Its amazing how easy it is to do the right thing and obtain a state of grace when the opportunity is ubiquitous.

When was the last time you went into a church in the USA where it was easy to find a priest hearing confessions?

Having said all that, I was quite surprised to see that Poland has the lowest brith rate in Europe - 1.24.


63 posted on 03/26/2007 5:48:49 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - W? No, 'twas Sen. Hillary 9/12/01)
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One thing about confession is the humility it takes to confess a sin to another.

It's awfully easy to rationalize behavior, but in front of another, confessing out loud make the sin very heavy and real.

One tends not to repeat the sin or the pattern of sin that leads to transgression.

Simply acknowledging a sin personally and giving lipservice to God without confessing seems a pretty easy thing that could become virtually meaningless due to our human ability and fallen nature to rationalize and create excuses for ourselves.


65 posted on 03/26/2007 6:21:11 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We are so far past the Rubicon, there's no way back)
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More and more NEED confession. I hope it's a trend.


70 posted on 03/26/2007 9:57:41 AM PDT by rbosque
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