Posted on 03/07/2007 9:10:18 AM PST by Salvation
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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference? |
Question: What's the difference between a Catholic Bible and a Protestant one? Is our Old Testament the same as a Jewish Bible? If not, why?
Answer: The most noticeable differences occur in the number of books included and the order in which they have been arranged. Both the Jewish Bible and the Hebrew canon in a Protestant Bible (aka Old Testament) contain 39 books, whereas a Catholic Bible contains 46 books in the Old Testament. In addition, the Greek Orthodox, or Eastern Orthodox, Church accepts a few more books as canonized scripture.
To give you a quick overview of a complicated subject, here's what happened: Several hundred years before the birth of Christ, Babylonian conquerors forced the Jews to leave Jerusalem. Away from their Temple and, often, from their priests, the exiled people forgot how to read, write, and speak Hebrew. After a while, Jewish scholars wanted to make the Bible accessible again, so they translated Hebrew scriptures into the Greek language commonly spoken. Books of wisdom and histories about the period were added, too, eventually becoming so well known that Jesus and the earliest Christian writers were familiar with them. Like the original Hebrew scriptures, the Greek texts, which were known as the Septuagint, were not in a codex or book form as we're accustomed to now but were handwritten on leather or parchment scrolls and rolled up for ease in storage.
Eventually, the Jewish exiles were allowed to return to Jerusalem where they renovated the Temple. Then, in A.D. 70, warring peoples almost completely destroyed the sacred structure, which has never been rebuilt. Without this central place of worship, the Jews began looking to the Bible as their focal point of faith, but to assure the purity of that faith, only Hebrew scriptures were allowed into the Jewish canon. By then, however, the earliest Christians spoke and read Greek, so they continued to use the Septuagint or Greek version of the Bible for many centuries. After the Reformation though, some Christians decided to accept translations into Latin then English only from the Hebrew texts that the Jewish Bible contained, so the seven additional books in the Greek translation became known as the Apocrypha, meaning "hidden." Since the books themselves were no secret, the word seemed ironic or, perhaps, prophetic because, in 1947, an Arab boy searching for a lost goat found, instead, the Dead Sea scrolls, hidden in a hillside cave.
Interestingly, the leather scrolls had been carefully wrapped in linen cloth, coated in pitch, and placed in airtight pottery jars about ten inches across and two feet high where, well-preserved, they remained for many centuries. Later, other caves in the same area yielded similar finds with hundreds of manuscripts no longer hidden. Indeed, the oldest copies of the Bible now known to exist are the Dead Sea scrolls of the Septuagint.
Because of this authentic find from antiquity, many publishers in the twentieth century added back the books of Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, First and Second Maccabees, as well as additions to Esther and Daniel. So now, when an edition of the Bible says "with Apocrypha" on the cover, the extra books from the Septuagint will usually be placed between the Old and New Testaments or at the end of the Bible. Catholic Bibles already contained those books, however, so you'll find them interwoven with other Old Testament books of history and wisdom writings.
For the New Testament, it's a different story and short. All of the books were written in Greek or Aramaic from the start. Although some debate occurred about which Gospels or Epistles should be included, all Christians eventually accepted all of the same 27 books in the same order. So, as long as you choose an edition that does not add explanatory notes opposed to a Catholic perspective, any reputable translation of the New Testament is fine.
Wonderful answer, dear one. Mxxx
I think you mix up personality and behavior. We're all born with certain personality traits. As we sin, our behavior changes and so does our personality to a point. The basics are still there but they've been 'overwhelmed' by the sinful behaviors in our lives. An alcoholic probably wasn't born that way but became one later in life because of his stupid first step of taking a drink.
We will all be changed in a twinkling of an eye when the Lord returns and we rise to meet him in the air. I don't know if we'll have the same earthly personality but we'll certainly be recognizable by our friends and family who are there. We'll have a heavenly body. There are lots of things we just don't know, it's a mystery, but after I'm gone, I don't think I'll care too much as long as I'm in HIS presence.
We'll be praising God, we'll be doing His will. It's going to be a great time!
Dialoguing with God is like talking to your earthly dad. You discuss things with him that concern you. You laugh and cry with him, you ask him questions that are important to you. You love on him. You try to please him by doing things you know he wants you to do. It goes on and on. It's a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP He truly wants, not a bunch of religious rules and admonitions or legalism. He wants YOU to treat him like you would a loving father.
Dialoguing with God? LOL!!! What exactly will you discuss with Him? What do you think you will tell Him that He already doesn't know?
So, your "Bible" [in quotes since so much seems to be missing from it] is missing the verses about:
1. God Almighty walking and talking with Adam in the garden?
2. God Almighty meeting face to face with Moses and conversing as friends?
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3. God Almighty wanting to meet at the tent of meeting with anyone of the Israelites who wished to ask Him questions but they were to fearful to do so.
4. God's evident dialogues with David?
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5. God's evident dialogues with Elijah and Elisha?
6. God's dialogues with Daniel?
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7. God's evident dialogues with Ezekiel?
8. God's evident dialogue/wrestling with Jacob?
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9. God's evident dialogues with Solomon?
10. God's evident dialogues with Samuel?
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11. God's evident dialogues with St Paul in the desert? I realize you don't like Paul. But since ALMIGHTY GOD DOES, I'll definitely go with God's assessment instead of yours.
12. God's dialogues with John the Beloved?
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BTW, when ALMIGHTY, ALL KNOWING GOD ASKS A QUESTION, He's not seeking information. LOL.
Methinks your construction on reality needs some adjustment if it's really the case that it assumes no personalities of humans persist in Heaven and eternity.
I just can't understand what's so difficult to understand about FELLOWSHIP.
a few quick replies before siesta time . . .
Thanks tons for your encouragements and wisdom in The Lord.
BTW, if you care to bother, I've tried but failed to 'get it'--to learn well the indent quote html and the specific font html and haven't. If you could lay it out for me how you do it, I'll print it off and tape it near my screen.
Blessings,
Thanks thanks for your kind confirmations.
LUB
"They want to drag you off into endless arguments that never amount to anything. They spread their ideas through the empty traditions of human beings and the empty superstitions of spirit beings. But that's not the way of Christ."
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THANKS TONS for your kind confirmations and encouragements.
God's best to you this week.
Hmmmmm.
Thanks for your kind words.
Indeed . . . SEEING with more than the eyes . . .
LIGHT . . .
REGISTRATION ON THE BRAIN . . .
UNDERSTANDING IN HEART, MIND AND SPIRIT . . .
USEFUL, FUNCTIONAL INGESTION, DIGESTION, IMPARTATION, REVELATION, BECOMING PART of one's being . . .
LIGHT - - - -> enLIGHTenment via Holy Spirit . . . in the inner man and the renewing of the mind . . .
LIGHT --> illumination of the inner man by Holy Spirit vs counterfeits . . .
YEA GOD.
As Scripture says of fathers' duty . . . as the child is folowing daddy around in the doings of the work day--to train up the child in the way that child should go making illustrations from daily life realities of eternal realities.
Thanks for your blessed encouragements Dear Sister.
WHAT A SUPER WONDERFUL FOLLOW ON POST.
Thanks tons.
Going to have to select and copy this whole thread.
LUB.
IOW, it is absolutely a done deal, and you can take it to the bank. Praise God!
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INDEED. And all the Mars Hill pontifications to the contrary will not register so much as a gnat's burp's worth in the final analysis. But those idolizing such pontifications as truth or as THEIR BRILLIANCE will find the weight of them to be more than a millstone around their necks in a certain warm lake.
Excellent wisdom from Him, hosepipe. Thanks tons.
Some good wisdom in your post . . . however, I take this a bit differently than you, most likely:
and to reason on a thing unknown is presumptuous and absurd;
I consider it presumptuous and absurd for hyper Calvinists to functionally obliterate the BOTH/ANDs of Scripture on such issues.
We don't know--certainly with any precision--how to resolve the SEEMING mutually exclusive FLAVORED Scriptural BOTH AND Scriptures on such a topic.
But it IS PRESUMPTUOUS AND ABSURD to therefore throw out all the uncomfortable ones via WHATEVER rationalization or 'slightl-of-hand-logic.'
Thanks tons.
Very well put. Thx.
VERY WELL PUT about dialoguing with DADDY.
THX BIG
"by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me." -- 1 Corinthians 15:10
If the Bible tells me we can have the mind of Christ, then so be it. I'm reading about that right now. We can have the mind of Christ regarding many things, suffering and bad things that happen to us or even through us, etc. It's our ATTITUDE that we have that can either be the mind of Christ or the mind of satan. Jesus was never negative. He suffered many things with a positive attitude towards them. He praised, that's why he was raised (not my quote). The Israelites complained and they remained (not mine either).
I don't think God is insulted by anything I've said. If he is, he will let me know for sure. If people are filled with His spirit, they do know more than those who refuse to be because the Holy Spirit guides them into all truth.
We all seem to forget that GOD is in control and HE will decide our nation's fate. That's why we need to pray for America and for Europe, etc. God answers prayer. If we don't pray, He can't answer. It's time to forget about Islam destroying Christianity and christian civilization and begin to believe God can and will sustain it.
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