IOW, it is absolutely a done deal, and you can take it to the bank. Praise God!
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INDEED. And all the Mars Hill pontifications to the contrary will not register so much as a gnat's burp's worth in the final analysis. But those idolizing such pontifications as truth or as THEIR BRILLIANCE will find the weight of them to be more than a millstone around their necks in a certain warm lake.
Quix, you speak the Truth of it.
Still, a caution: We ought never to derive pleasure or satisfaction from the sufferings of others, even if only in imagination, and even if "they deserved it." It just sets up such a bad precedent in the light of God's Word: "Judge not, lest ye shall also be judged."
By which I take God to mean: the way you deal with people subject in any way to your judgment, and the criteria by which you qualify valid, admissible evidence pertaining to their individual cases, altogether specify the same exact "system of justice" that you yourself will receive on Judgment Day. In effect, we humans "write the book" stipulating the equitable standards that inevitably will be applied to our own particular cases, in the fullness of Time....
And so it seems that human liberty itself is not without a "Limit".... Probably this can be ascribed to the fact that Man does not make himself; only God can create a man.
It's the source:image issue in play here, and the irreconcilable disparties that evidently exist between seemingly alike things, which eventually usually get sorted out and consigned to a set of "categorical," not ontological classification -- that is, they are not considered to be problems of Being. (Assuming there are still people around who study "Being" for is own sake....)
Only in God are we fully "justified." We humans can no more justify ourselves than to create ourselves.... Nor do we create or control our final destiny....
In short, I pray for the souls of sinners, who are my brothers and sisters in Christ....
And moreover I thank you, my dear brother in Christ, for sharing your thoughts in these matters this evening.