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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?
Catholic Exchange.com ^ | 02-06-07 | Mary Harwell Sayler

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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?

March 6, 2007

Question: What's the difference between a Catholic Bible and a Protestant one? Is our Old Testament the same as a Jewish Bible? If not, why?

Answer: The most noticeable differences occur in the number of books included and the order in which they have been arranged. Both the Jewish Bible and the Hebrew canon in a Protestant Bible (aka Old Testament) contain 39 books, whereas a Catholic Bible contains 46 books in the Old Testament. In addition, the Greek Orthodox, or Eastern Orthodox, Church accepts a few more books as canonized scripture.

To give you a quick overview of a complicated subject, here's what happened: Several hundred years before the birth of Christ, Babylonian conquerors forced the Jews to leave Jerusalem. Away from their Temple and, often, from their priests, the exiled people forgot how to read, write, and speak Hebrew. After a while, Jewish scholars wanted to make the Bible accessible again, so they translated Hebrew scriptures into the Greek language commonly spoken. Books of wisdom and histories about the period were added, too, eventually becoming so well known that Jesus and the earliest Christian writers were familiar with them. Like the original Hebrew scriptures, the Greek texts, which were known as the Septuagint, were not in a codex or book form as we're accustomed to now but were handwritten on leather or parchment scrolls and rolled up for ease in storage.

 Eventually, the Jewish exiles were allowed to return to Jerusalem where they renovated the Temple. Then, in A.D. 70, warring peoples almost completely destroyed the sacred structure, which has never been rebuilt. Without this central place of worship, the Jews began looking to the Bible as their focal point of faith, but to assure the purity of that faith, only Hebrew scriptures were allowed into the Jewish canon. By then, however, the earliest Christians spoke and read Greek, so they continued to use the Septuagint or Greek version of the Bible for many centuries. After the Reformation though, some Christians decided to accept translations into Latin then English only from the Hebrew texts that the Jewish Bible contained, so the seven additional books in the Greek translation became known as the Apocrypha, meaning "hidden." Since the books themselves were no secret, the word seemed ironic or, perhaps, prophetic because, in 1947, an Arab boy searching for a lost goat found, instead, the Dead Sea scrolls, hidden in a hillside cave.

Interestingly, the leather scrolls had been carefully wrapped in linen cloth, coated in pitch, and placed in airtight pottery jars about ten inches across and two feet high where, well-preserved, they remained for many centuries. Later, other caves in the same area yielded similar finds with hundreds of manuscripts no longer hidden. Indeed, the oldest copies of the Bible now known to exist are the Dead Sea scrolls of the Septuagint.

Because of this authentic find from antiquity, many publishers in the twentieth century added back the books of Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, First and Second Maccabees, as well as additions to Esther and Daniel. So now, when an edition of the Bible says "with Apocrypha" on the cover, the extra books from the Septuagint will usually be placed between the Old and New Testaments or at the end of the Bible. Catholic Bibles already contained those books, however, so you'll find them interwoven with other Old Testament books of history and wisdom writings. 

For the New Testament, it's a different story — and short. All of the books were written in Greek or Aramaic from the start. Although some debate occurred about which Gospels or Epistles should be included, all Christians eventually accepted all of the same 27 books in the same order. So, as long as you choose an edition that does not add explanatory notes opposed to a Catholic perspective, any reputable translation of the New Testament is fine.



TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Judaism; Mainline Protestant
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To: kawaii
[.. Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. ..]

Are YOU working iniquity?... You know... NOT forgiven?..

401 posted on 03/12/2007 11:05:53 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Quix

why bother when you folks are so busy dancing over the truth to justify your anti-Christian behaviors?


402 posted on 03/12/2007 11:11:39 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii
I would say that the purpose of the Church Christ established is to articulate the truth with regard to potential linguistic vagarities in the text of scripture.

Are you referring to vagarities in the original texts of the individual books, as they work together, or to vagarities due to translation/copying error?

403 posted on 03/12/2007 11:18:07 AM PDT by Forest Keeper
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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Marysecretary
We pray directly to the Father, as Christ taught, yet as Christians, we pray in Jesus' name, also as Jesus taught.

Knowing the scriptures and just what they teach is so helpful, isn't it?

404 posted on 03/12/2007 11:23:02 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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To: kawaii; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; ScubieNuc; wmfights; hosepipe; xzins; Blogger; ...

"'just a metaphor and means something completely opposite'."

First a lesson in figures of speech: a metaphor is a word used in place of another to suggest a likeness between them. Otherwise, when we take the bread in communion we would think we were actually eating the church, the body of Christ.

Next, if you look closely at 1 Cotinthians 12, you will see the Apostle using many metaphors for the members of the church; eyes, hands, arms, feet etc.

And if you really look closely you will find there were many denominations in the early church, in fact each city was its own denomination. In Jerusalem, the center, there was the Hellenistic church and the Jewish church. In Corinth there was the church that followed Apollos, the church that followed Peter and the church that followed Paul.


405 posted on 03/12/2007 11:23:48 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Forest Keeper

there is a gap between thought and writing. this is accentuated when translating.

in fact the better way to understand is by comparing to books and looking for the meanings they can agree on.


406 posted on 03/12/2007 11:26:53 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: blue-duncan

nothing says metaphor like:

1Cr 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.


407 posted on 03/12/2007 11:28:26 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: wmfights
FWIW, if I only have the choice of either being a robot under GOD'S control, or a robot under a church's control I will take being controlled by GOD any day

Fair enough, but that would not be your decision in that case. :)

408 posted on 03/12/2007 11:29:42 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: blue-duncan
I'm beginning to believe that those that refuse to see the biblical metaphors(RCC) do it ON PURPOSE... They do it in lieu of seeing the truth.. There are few that are THAT stupid..

UNless the sheep and goats MUST be separated and that is one way of doing it..
i.e. hiding the truth by metaphor.. The "eat and drink(my body, my blood)" metaphor(s) is only one of them..

409 posted on 03/12/2007 11:34:43 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: kawaii; Religion Moderator; All; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Gamecock; Forest Keeper; DarthVader; ...

Look, Fred,

I'll speak for myself and whatever Protesties choose to agree with me . . . .

We don't appreciate wholesale unmitigated Protestant bashing. Particularly in the tone and manner some seem to compulsively do it in.

Some of us could just as easily bash Orthodox or RC groups wholesale. It's not for lack of evil in any camp that we refrain.

Most of us actually PREFER to deal with ISSUES on an issue by issue, case by case basis. Some of us actually enjoy the cross fertilization the different authentically Christian folks bring to the discussions.

I try to respond somewhat with the same emotional weight with some creativity and fiestiness as little else seems to match the diatribes with more than a gnat's sniffle. But that strategy doesn't moderate or mellow or increase the reasonableness of the dialogue much at all in such cases, it seems.

I don't know what the answer is . . . a lot of folks avoid the threads in fiercely intense disgust. And perhaps that's the answer . . . total and permanent IGNORE.

But the seduction of inexperienced, newbie Christian lurkers is a concern on that score. They deserve some rational edifying counter responses to some of the hideous statements posted.

I suppose the only other alternative is prayer and fasting.

I realize that some have less than 0.000% respect for what those of us they label as wolves might think of them even if it was the entire rest of FR. However, Almighty God has all our numbers and knows how to press all our buttons in very educational ways.

Sigh.


410 posted on 03/12/2007 11:39:02 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Quix

protestant bashing would be to insult sola scriptura not to at least expect you folks to hold to it.


411 posted on 03/12/2007 11:40:45 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii

Oh, some seem to have a PhD in Protestant bashing and to miss few opportunities to do it wholesale and blackwash across the board springboarding off any facet, any issue, any perspective, any chance to be contentious.


412 posted on 03/12/2007 11:43:35 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: kawaii; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; ScubieNuc; wmfights; hosepipe; xzins; Blogger; ...

"nothing says metaphor like: "1Cr 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord."

Here's another lesson in figures of speech. Can you say "non sequitur"? That is an inference that does not follow from the premises.

In chapter 14, Paul is talking about practices in the church; in chapter 12 he is describing the interconnectedness of the members of the church and illustrating it by the use of metaphor.

The problem here, is Calvinists are used to not only reading the bible but studying it carefully, not just credulously taking for granted what someone else has said.


413 posted on 03/12/2007 11:44:33 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Alex Murphy; AlaninSA

That's a pretty funny post, really, no sarcasm or other lie here. I got a good chuckle out of it.

Indeed, I do tend to cringe a bit when others say, "There's over 30,000 Protestant denominations that have grown out of the Reformation", as I haven't really been able to find a website that lists all 30,000 (or 20,000 or even 10,000) denominations.

The main point though is, if I may chime in regarding this point, that there are at least 10 independent, completely incompatible (doctrinally speaking, not talking about differences in worship, or hair styles, or anything trivial, I'm talking about whether or not Modalism or the Trinity is true, or whether or not Jesus is even God) denominations.

10 incompatible denominations, I'm sure this number no one would disagree with. And this is really the point: Did God ever intend such confusion, such heights of discord and disunity, in His Church, even if we allow for the possibility of an "invisible church"? IOW, even if the number of doctrinally divided denominations was only TWO, isn't that enough to make the point that there CAN'T be an "invisible church"?

Speaking for myself, I cannot see God, who is NOT the author of confusion, allowing members of His Church to wonder whether or not His Son is God, much less all the other doctrines that clearly divide at LEAST 10 Protestant denominations from another.


414 posted on 03/12/2007 11:45:41 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: blue-duncan

Calvinists are used to not only reading the bible but studying it carefully, not just credulously taking for granted what someone else has said.

= = =

Hey silly rabbit,

Most of us Pentecostal Armenians do the same thing good Calvinists do on that score.

LOL.

Thx.


415 posted on 03/12/2007 11:47:00 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: blue-duncan

"1Cr 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord."

needs little 'personal interpretation' from those looking for the meaning of scripture but needs much interpretation from those looking to project their intended meaning ON to scripture.


416 posted on 03/12/2007 11:47:51 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

AGREED.


417 posted on 03/12/2007 11:48:22 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Quix

suggesting that folks who profess adhering to scripture alone follow that is is not bashing.

for a hint at what bashing is, suggesting that folks dance on pictures is bashing.


418 posted on 03/12/2007 11:49:25 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii

Ahhhh, the eye of the beholder.

And, you construe it that your eyes are exceedingly more super righteous, pure, accurate etc.

than mine.

I'm happy to let God assess my eyes . . .

I don't receive your assessment.


419 posted on 03/12/2007 11:56:16 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: kawaii

I suppose I could try and elaborate on the definition of

WHOLESALE BLACKWASHING, ACROSS THE BOARD at the slightest perceived provocation . . .

But I think I'll save my fingers for something more fruitful.


420 posted on 03/12/2007 11:57:40 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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