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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?
Catholic Exchange.com ^ | 02-06-07 | Mary Harwell Sayler

Posted on 03/07/2007 9:10:18 AM PST by Salvation

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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?

March 6, 2007

Question: What's the difference between a Catholic Bible and a Protestant one? Is our Old Testament the same as a Jewish Bible? If not, why?

Answer: The most noticeable differences occur in the number of books included and the order in which they have been arranged. Both the Jewish Bible and the Hebrew canon in a Protestant Bible (aka Old Testament) contain 39 books, whereas a Catholic Bible contains 46 books in the Old Testament. In addition, the Greek Orthodox, or Eastern Orthodox, Church accepts a few more books as canonized scripture.

To give you a quick overview of a complicated subject, here's what happened: Several hundred years before the birth of Christ, Babylonian conquerors forced the Jews to leave Jerusalem. Away from their Temple and, often, from their priests, the exiled people forgot how to read, write, and speak Hebrew. After a while, Jewish scholars wanted to make the Bible accessible again, so they translated Hebrew scriptures into the Greek language commonly spoken. Books of wisdom and histories about the period were added, too, eventually becoming so well known that Jesus and the earliest Christian writers were familiar with them. Like the original Hebrew scriptures, the Greek texts, which were known as the Septuagint, were not in a codex or book form as we're accustomed to now but were handwritten on leather or parchment scrolls and rolled up for ease in storage.

 Eventually, the Jewish exiles were allowed to return to Jerusalem where they renovated the Temple. Then, in A.D. 70, warring peoples almost completely destroyed the sacred structure, which has never been rebuilt. Without this central place of worship, the Jews began looking to the Bible as their focal point of faith, but to assure the purity of that faith, only Hebrew scriptures were allowed into the Jewish canon. By then, however, the earliest Christians spoke and read Greek, so they continued to use the Septuagint or Greek version of the Bible for many centuries. After the Reformation though, some Christians decided to accept translations into Latin then English only from the Hebrew texts that the Jewish Bible contained, so the seven additional books in the Greek translation became known as the Apocrypha, meaning "hidden." Since the books themselves were no secret, the word seemed ironic or, perhaps, prophetic because, in 1947, an Arab boy searching for a lost goat found, instead, the Dead Sea scrolls, hidden in a hillside cave.

Interestingly, the leather scrolls had been carefully wrapped in linen cloth, coated in pitch, and placed in airtight pottery jars about ten inches across and two feet high where, well-preserved, they remained for many centuries. Later, other caves in the same area yielded similar finds with hundreds of manuscripts no longer hidden. Indeed, the oldest copies of the Bible now known to exist are the Dead Sea scrolls of the Septuagint.

Because of this authentic find from antiquity, many publishers in the twentieth century added back the books of Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, First and Second Maccabees, as well as additions to Esther and Daniel. So now, when an edition of the Bible says "with Apocrypha" on the cover, the extra books from the Septuagint will usually be placed between the Old and New Testaments or at the end of the Bible. Catholic Bibles already contained those books, however, so you'll find them interwoven with other Old Testament books of history and wisdom writings. 

For the New Testament, it's a different story — and short. All of the books were written in Greek or Aramaic from the start. Although some debate occurred about which Gospels or Epistles should be included, all Christians eventually accepted all of the same 27 books in the same order. So, as long as you choose an edition that does not add explanatory notes opposed to a Catholic perspective, any reputable translation of the New Testament is fine.



TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Judaism; Mainline Protestant
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To: TASMANIANRED

I beg you parddon. When Jesus enters his hometown and is preaching in the synagogue, he unrolls the scroll, finds Isaiah on the scroll, reads from Isaiah, and then carefully rolls it back up again. The people were amazed at his knowledge and wisdom since they thought of him only as the carpenter's son, and did not view him for who he was. In fact, the story continues, they drove him out of town to the edge of a clifff, but he walked, unharmed, right through them.

The Old Testament had been recorded on scrolls. What did Jesus say to the people in his town that got them so upset?

"The phrophecy has been fulfilled in your sight today."

It's right there in the Bible, I don't see how you can say that the Old Testament was not recorded. It was -- on scrolls. (Many that have been preserved and/or found, BTW.


101 posted on 03/07/2007 10:31:26 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: humblegunner

Why are you posting in this way?


102 posted on 03/07/2007 10:33:18 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Pyro7480

I admit I am coming back to this thread after posting it this morning. I am baffled by these posts.


103 posted on 03/07/2007 10:35:25 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: AlaninSA

Both are true, although I have never heard Luther referred to as lazy. I know he just took out things that proved what he didn't believe.

He also added to word "alone" so it would read "faith alone" which is not what Catholics believe. Not sure I remember exactly where it is, though. I used to know. Maybe someone can help me out.

You are also right about King of England.....one of the reasons that the Book of James was kept in the Bible, even though edited to his liking.


104 posted on 03/07/2007 10:38:44 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Sometimes I am glad that I am too stupid to understand all the arguements in these areas. I am just gald that we have the scriptures and that God was gracious enough to show us how much he loves us through them. I am also thankful for those who can interpret them with authority, wisdom and love.

Mel


105 posted on 03/08/2007 2:38:09 AM PST by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: Pyro7480

You are wasting my time.
You know perfectly well that it is a very small number
Your response is not an earnest one always stalling for time. No thanks.


106 posted on 03/08/2007 4:32:03 AM PST by Bainbridge
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To: kawaii

Just about every image and icon I have seen of Jesus- particularly in Catholic and Orthodox churches- show Him with long hair. This seems to contradict I Corinthians 11:14. In the Catholic Church I attend, very few of the women cover their heads. In fact, to my knowledge, only in the Coptic Churches do all the women cover their heads (as well as sit on the opposite side of the church from the men, and, like the men, remove their shoes when approaching the altar).

Everyone knows the Catholic Church does not have women priests. There are many women teachers, cousellors, administrators, etc. Many RCIA classes are taught by women. I do not see how this differs from those Protestant churches that have women elders and pastors.


107 posted on 03/08/2007 4:45:20 AM PST by bobjam
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To: kawaii

What were you doing in a Protestant church?


108 posted on 03/08/2007 5:10:37 AM PST by irishtenor (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: Bainbridge
Your response is not an earnest one always stalling for time. No thanks.

It was a honest question! Goodness... Yes, most Catholic women don't cover their head anymore, though nothing in Vatican II said it was good thing to stop. Happy now!?

109 posted on 03/08/2007 5:23:28 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Salvation; Kolokotronis; jo kus; annalex; Agrarian; kawaii; johnsantosjr; Quix; Sloth; ...
That's an excellent summary of why sola scriptura is a man-made tradition you won't find in the Scriptures!

Saint John Chrysostom also tells us why scriptures are a necessary "second best."


110 posted on 03/08/2007 5:47:38 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: irishtenor

my non-orthodox parents attend one (prebyterian), admittedly i ony here much about it when big things come up like a pastor preaching how happy he'll be when Mary Cheny can marry her partner, or about the current situation where one parishioner's husband attending in drag, as 'God intended for him to be a woman'.

Not far off from 'God intended women to pray uncovered' if you ask me.


111 posted on 03/08/2007 6:45:28 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: Bainbridge

i'm not a Roman Catholic, and yes the women at our church cover their heads while praying.


112 posted on 03/08/2007 6:46:54 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii
I know you are not a Roman Catholic. I did not ask you about your church. I find it interesting that you have some sort of an obsession with this and are forever weighing in against Protestants about it. Why not take it up with your more legalistic confreres.
113 posted on 03/08/2007 6:52:25 AM PST by Bainbridge
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To: Bainbridge

Well when protestants perpetually banter about how important scripture is to them I do become puzzled as to why they'd throw out 289 words of it.


114 posted on 03/08/2007 6:53:27 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: bobjam
Everyone knows the Catholic Church does not have women priests. There are many women teachers, cousellors, administrators, etc. Many RCIA classes are taught by women. I do not see how this differs from those Protestant churches that have women elders and pastors.

How so? These women teachers and counselors and so forth are not in an authoritative position in the Church. The buck stops at the pastor. In every case, this is a man in the Catholic Church. While women certainly may be on boards and are desperately needed in these capacities, they do not have an overriding say within the community. That belongs to the pastor. In Protestant communities that rule by committee, that is different. In Protestant communities that rule under female pastors, that is different.

Regards

115 posted on 03/08/2007 6:56:02 AM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: kawaii
Well when protestants perpetually banter about how important scripture is to them I do become puzzled as to why they'd throw out 289 words of it.

Two hundred and eighty-nine? It is a lot more than that. Are you counting Sirach, Wisdom, Judith, Tobit, 1 and 2 Maccabees, or Baruch? Or just the addition of Daniel? What is especially puzzling to me is the exclusion of Wisdom. I would have to say it is the best book that links the Old and the New Testament and perhaps only Isaiah compares to it in this aspect. Especially prominent is the personification of Wisdom, the Logos, the Word - a precursor for John 1.

Regards

116 posted on 03/08/2007 6:59:21 AM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: Quix

Other than Mary visiting her "cousin" Elizabeth, I don't think I've ever seen the words "aunt, uncle or cousin" in the Bible....am I wrong?


117 posted on 03/08/2007 6:59:30 AM PST by Suzy Quzy
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To: Alex Murphy
Ours get read?

I have one exactly like the ones in the picture with this article. It gets read so often that it began falling apart in less than year. Now, could some of this be due to bad workmanship, but believe me ... it is read on a daily basis.

118 posted on 03/08/2007 7:00:00 AM PST by al_c
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To: ScubieNuc

What kind of Bible is the New International Version?? Never heard of it.


119 posted on 03/08/2007 7:03:28 AM PST by Suzy Quzy
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To: jo kus

well specifically i was refering to 289 words from St Paul in 1 Corinthians but yea that's only a small portion of the total protestants have thrown out.


120 posted on 03/08/2007 7:03:56 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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