Posted on 03/07/2007 9:10:18 AM PST by Salvation
I beg you parddon. When Jesus enters his hometown and is preaching in the synagogue, he unrolls the scroll, finds Isaiah on the scroll, reads from Isaiah, and then carefully rolls it back up again. The people were amazed at his knowledge and wisdom since they thought of him only as the carpenter's son, and did not view him for who he was. In fact, the story continues, they drove him out of town to the edge of a clifff, but he walked, unharmed, right through them.
The Old Testament had been recorded on scrolls. What did Jesus say to the people in his town that got them so upset?
"The phrophecy has been fulfilled in your sight today."
It's right there in the Bible, I don't see how you can say that the Old Testament was not recorded. It was -- on scrolls. (Many that have been preserved and/or found, BTW.
Why are you posting in this way?
I admit I am coming back to this thread after posting it this morning. I am baffled by these posts.
Both are true, although I have never heard Luther referred to as lazy. I know he just took out things that proved what he didn't believe.
He also added to word "alone" so it would read "faith alone" which is not what Catholics believe. Not sure I remember exactly where it is, though. I used to know. Maybe someone can help me out.
You are also right about King of England.....one of the reasons that the Book of James was kept in the Bible, even though edited to his liking.
Sometimes I am glad that I am too stupid to understand all the arguements in these areas. I am just gald that we have the scriptures and that God was gracious enough to show us how much he loves us through them. I am also thankful for those who can interpret them with authority, wisdom and love.
Mel
You are wasting my time.
You know perfectly well that it is a very small number
Your response is not an earnest one always stalling for time. No thanks.
Just about every image and icon I have seen of Jesus- particularly in Catholic and Orthodox churches- show Him with long hair. This seems to contradict I Corinthians 11:14. In the Catholic Church I attend, very few of the women cover their heads. In fact, to my knowledge, only in the Coptic Churches do all the women cover their heads (as well as sit on the opposite side of the church from the men, and, like the men, remove their shoes when approaching the altar).
Everyone knows the Catholic Church does not have women priests. There are many women teachers, cousellors, administrators, etc. Many RCIA classes are taught by women. I do not see how this differs from those Protestant churches that have women elders and pastors.
What were you doing in a Protestant church?
It was a honest question! Goodness... Yes, most Catholic women don't cover their head anymore, though nothing in Vatican II said it was good thing to stop. Happy now!?
Saint John Chrysostom also tells us why scriptures are a necessary "second best."
For that the former was better, God hath made manifest, both by His words, and by His doings. Since unto Noah, and unto Abraham, and unto his offspring, and unto Job, and unto Moses too, He discoursed not by writings, but Himself by Himself, finding their mind pure. But after the whole people of the Hebrews had fallen into the very pit of wickedness, then and thereafter was a written word, and tables, and the admonition which is given by these." [from The Fathers]
my non-orthodox parents attend one (prebyterian), admittedly i ony here much about it when big things come up like a pastor preaching how happy he'll be when Mary Cheny can marry her partner, or about the current situation where one parishioner's husband attending in drag, as 'God intended for him to be a woman'.
Not far off from 'God intended women to pray uncovered' if you ask me.
i'm not a Roman Catholic, and yes the women at our church cover their heads while praying.
Well when protestants perpetually banter about how important scripture is to them I do become puzzled as to why they'd throw out 289 words of it.
How so? These women teachers and counselors and so forth are not in an authoritative position in the Church. The buck stops at the pastor. In every case, this is a man in the Catholic Church. While women certainly may be on boards and are desperately needed in these capacities, they do not have an overriding say within the community. That belongs to the pastor. In Protestant communities that rule by committee, that is different. In Protestant communities that rule under female pastors, that is different.
Regards
Two hundred and eighty-nine? It is a lot more than that. Are you counting Sirach, Wisdom, Judith, Tobit, 1 and 2 Maccabees, or Baruch? Or just the addition of Daniel? What is especially puzzling to me is the exclusion of Wisdom. I would have to say it is the best book that links the Old and the New Testament and perhaps only Isaiah compares to it in this aspect. Especially prominent is the personification of Wisdom, the Logos, the Word - a precursor for John 1.
Regards
Other than Mary visiting her "cousin" Elizabeth, I don't think I've ever seen the words "aunt, uncle or cousin" in the Bible....am I wrong?
I have one exactly like the ones in the picture with this article. It gets read so often that it began falling apart in less than year. Now, could some of this be due to bad workmanship, but believe me ... it is read on a daily basis.
What kind of Bible is the New International Version?? Never heard of it.
well specifically i was refering to 289 words from St Paul in 1 Corinthians but yea that's only a small portion of the total protestants have thrown out.
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