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Catholic Church & Jesus Christ-Why No One Should Be A Catholic
Apostolic Messianic Fellowship ^ | August 30, 2005 | Why No One Should Be A Catholic

Posted on 03/04/2007 8:21:23 AM PST by Iscool

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To: Frank Sheed

And of course, "nonne" is used when you ask a question already knowing the answer!


621 posted on 03/05/2007 9:46:35 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: OpusatFR

Thanks! Looks great! I am so happy I bookmarked this thread ages ago.

I am off to lunch and then a rosary!

Pax vobiscum!


622 posted on 03/05/2007 9:46:59 AM PST by Frank Sheed ("Shakespeare the Papist" by Fr. Peter Milward, S.J.)
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To: Frank Sheed
I'd be telling high school students at this very moment that this translation of Ovid looks a lot like a "pony" I can find in any bookstore!

Why would you want to be in a roomful of people who hate you? And the secure knowledge that twenty years later many of them will realize that what they learned in Latin come in helpful in everyday life is not a valid answer.

623 posted on 03/05/2007 9:47:32 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: nmh; Salvation
2Tim.3:16 [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

A pretty good rebuttal of sola scriptura, at least as far as 2 Tim 3:16-17 goes.

624 posted on 03/05/2007 9:47:40 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

"Cool link, thanks!

Interesting how it disproves the popular Protestant notion that the title of Mary "Mother of God" wasn't around until after Constantine! ;-)"


Well....Elizabeth did call Mary "mother of my lord."


625 posted on 03/05/2007 9:56:30 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
Well....Elizabeth did call Mary "mother of my lord."

True, however the deniers of the concept simply say, "Lord" doesn't mean "God". This is usually from the same people who believe Jesus is God also, which makes it ironic too.

626 posted on 03/05/2007 10:05:22 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

"True, however the deniers of the concept simply say, "Lord" doesn't mean "God". This is usually from the same people who believe Jesus is God also, which makes it ironic too"

They sure do have a talent for talking their way around the obvious.


627 posted on 03/05/2007 10:08:23 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: jo kus

It's sort of the same thing as the way some Canadians define themselves relative to the US.


628 posted on 03/05/2007 10:19:22 AM PST by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: wagglebee
So, who is lying, is it our Lord Jesus Christ or the author?

Neither one is lying...Why don't you guys ever include this verse when you quote the others to justify your mass???

Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

And explain this:

Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

If you are saved, you are filled with the Holy Spirit, a third of the Trinity, God...

God is God...Jesus is God...The Holy Spirit is God...

Why would someone who is filled with God desire to go thru a ritual to get the 'real presence' of God when God is within them???

Can you explain that???

629 posted on 03/05/2007 10:27:23 AM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: Diego1618
Here is the text at the link you posted. It is public domain, so there is no issue with posting it:
If thou wilt give me leave, I desire to go up to Jerusalem, and see the faithful saints who are there, especially Mary the mother, whom they report to be an object of admiration and of affection to all. For who would not rejoice to behold and to address her who bore the true God from her own womb, provided he is a friend of our faith and religion? And in like manner [I desire to see] the venerable James, who is surnamed Just, whom they relate to be very like Christ Jesus in appearance, in life, and in method of conduct, as if he were a twin-brother of the same womb. They say that, if I see him, I see also Jesus Himself, as to all the features and aspect of His body. Moreover, [I desire to see] the other saints, both male and female. Alas! why do I delay? Why am I kept back? Kind teacher, bid me hasten [to fulfil my wish], and fare thou well. Amen.

Bolding added by me.

To say somebody is "as if" is distinctly different than saying somebody "is."

630 posted on 03/05/2007 10:30:38 AM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: DungeonMaster
As much as I love RC vs P debate, I don't know where to start on this thread

Talking about your kids is a safe bet...

631 posted on 03/05/2007 10:40:20 AM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat; Dr. Eckleburg

Steve Sez:

"I send my greetings from FReeper Purgatory (aka "the Land of Many Socks")."


632 posted on 03/05/2007 10:41:45 AM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Iscool
Why would someone who is filled with God desire to go thru a ritual to get the 'real presence' of God when God is within them??? Can you explain that???

Someone saying they are filled with God is being presumptuous. As to why they would want to go through a 'ritual', maybe because the Master commanded it?

Corinthians Chapter 11

23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
633 posted on 03/05/2007 10:41:58 AM PST by DarkSavant
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To: Tax-chick
Are you allowed to say "midgets"?

I wouldn't stoop that low.

634 posted on 03/05/2007 10:44:17 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: DarkSavant
Someone saying they are filled with God is being presumptuous.

Are you filled with the Holy Spirit, God???

635 posted on 03/05/2007 10:47:52 AM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: All

Are Catholic lay people filled with the Holy Spirit??? Is God within you???


636 posted on 03/05/2007 10:58:31 AM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: tiki

Dispensation from the Friday Meat rap due to illness.


637 posted on 03/05/2007 11:03:10 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (No stinking peanut butter.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Brilliant and I might have to steal..err...Borrow it.


638 posted on 03/05/2007 11:06:42 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (No stinking peanut butter.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Pardon me while I adjust my tagline.


639 posted on 03/05/2007 11:08:28 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Heus, hic nos omnes in agmine sunt!)
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To: Iscool
Why don't you guys ever include this verse when you quote the others to justify your mass???

Why don't YOU include the WHOLE passage?

61 Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard, and who can hear it? 62 But Jesus, knowing in himself, that his disciples murmured at this, said to them: Doth this scandalize you? 63 If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? 64 It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I have spoken to you, are spirit and life. 65 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, and who he was, that would betray him.
(John 6:61-63)

Jesus was speaking of flesh being separate from spirit.

640 posted on 03/05/2007 11:15:04 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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