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1 posted on 02/26/2007 4:15:50 AM PST by Gamecock
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Jesus son of Joseph, Judah son of Jesus, Maria, Mariamne (thought to be Mary Magdalene's real name), Joseph and Matthew.

The only evidence that Cameron has that this could possibly be Jesus' tomb is this group of names. There is a very big problem with that.

Where does he get this list of names? From the Gospels. There is no other historical documents that put these names together.

Now these are the same Gospels that he debunks as being incorrect. He argues that the Gospels are wrong about the death and resurrection of Jesus, that Jesus was married, and by adding a son he even changes the list of names that he uses as evidence of his find.

You cannot say that the Gospels are correct on one point and incorrect on another without external corroboration. You are saying that the Gospels are reliable enough to be a source for some information but not reliable enough to be believed in other areas. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either the Gospels are a fictionalized version of Jesus' life thus everything they say must be questioned or they are a sincere biography and can be trusted to be mostly accurate.

To prove his theory, Cameron must find historical evidence (outside of early Christian writings) that proves Jesus did exist, and which groups His name with the others. Failing to do that makes his findings very unscientific and amounts to intellectual laziness.

93 posted on 02/26/2007 12:43:21 PM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations. So should you.)
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Why bother arguing about it? If your faith tells you that it's not true, you'll not change your own mind, and likely won't change anyone else's either.


118 posted on 02/26/2007 2:46:03 PM PST by SuziQ
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thanks go to GoLightly and xcamel for compiling the list (thus far) of such topics:

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141 posted on 02/26/2007 10:36:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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142 posted on 02/26/2007 10:36:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Self-ping for use later...


147 posted on 02/28/2007 3:37:42 PM PST by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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The DNA could be pretty much useless. It was mtDNA, extracted from "human residue", which may have been from anyone that handled the ossuaries. One cell can contaminate ancient DNA.

It established only that there was no maternal link between Jeshua(?) and Miriamne. Somehow that proves they were married!


148 posted on 02/28/2007 5:23:41 PM PST by Ironfocus
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