Rep. Ron Paul: Running to Win in 2008 (Announcing the GRPPL -- Great Ron Paul Ping List)

Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Exploratory Committee ^ | February 3, 2007 | Orthodox Presbyterian

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Rep. Ron Paul: Running to Win in 2008
Dave Eberhart
Wednesday, Jan. 31, 2007 WASHINGTON -- Libertarians and conservatives alike, frustrated by their early options among the so-called 2008 front-runners, may turn to a familiar face in pursuit of the White House: Rep. Ron Paul.

Paul, R-Texas, has been a fervent advocate of limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies based on commodity-backed currency. He's now considering taking his no-nonsense show on the road in an under-the-radar run for the White House... (full article at http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/1/30/151713.shtml?s=po)

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ANNOUNCING
The formation of the Great Ron Paul Ping List (GRPPL)
on Free Republic's Religion Forum

Well, it's (very nearly) official: the Honorable Rep. Ron Paul, Texas 14th District, is running for the Republican Nomination for President of the United States. I don't mind saying that this news has me more excited about National electoral politics than I have been in a long, long time. We are past due for a 100% Pro-Life, Pro-Second Amendment, Pro-Capitalism, Pro-Liberty die-hard Constitutionalist Christian in the White House!!

Over the last few days, I have been speaking with a delightful Calvinist Christian political operative: Presbyterian Church in America member Penny Langford-Freeman, Ron Paul's own Political Director. She is enthusiastic about the prospect that Presbyterian and Reformed Christians and others can develop a powerful base of support for Ron Paul's candidacy by hitting the ground EARLY, leveraging our internet resources, our elbow-grease and our shoe-leather from the grass-roots up to overcome the financial advantages enjoyed by major GOP liberals like Giuliani and McCain. We need to get our Conservative Christian friends and neighbors registered Republican and committed to vote for Ron Paul in the Primaries, and then get them to get their friends and neighbors registered and voting for Ron, every day for the next 11 months until Iowa and New Hampshire... and then take the GOP Primaries by storm in 2008, swarming out of the shadows like the guerilla army of Huguenot Calvinist "Swamp Fox" Francis Marion in the Revolutionary War.

Towards that end, I have set up a new Email account for coordinating FreeRepublic support for Ron Paul's candidacy. I will be working with Ron Paul's campaign staff to help direct interested FreeRepublic Conservative Christians in their efforts to support Dr. Paul; while I will be working most closely with my own Presbyterian and Reformed FReeper Friends (due simply to long familiarity and camaraderie), Christians from ALL theological traditions are most welcome!

If interested, please send your Name, State of Residence, and Email Address (contact phone number and church membership are helpful but not required) to:

ronpaulcalvinist@sbcglobal.net

I will be accepting Emails from interested parties and then submitting the list en masse to Ron Paul's political director later next week. You will be placed on Ron Paul's campaign email list and put in contact with your State campaign organizers as soon as possible. In addition, any suggestions you can offer regarding campaign literature, strategy, and marketing will be appreciated!

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

How would such a ban be enforced?

The same way that laws against murder are enforced now. If sufficient hard evidence -- like, say, a body in a dumpster -- is reported to police, detectives will be dispatched to investigate whether or not a crime has occurred.

Would the police review medical charts to ensure doctors didn't assist in abortion?

Only if there were sufficient evidence to persuade a sitting judge to issue detectives a warrant for such investigation. You know, like in a regular murder investigation?

How would you keep a savvy girl from taking a massive dose of progesterone?

I don't imagine you could.

And savvy wife-abusers are able to keep Sallie-Mae from talking about "hubby gittin' a lil temper up"; but we still keep spousal abuse illegal, and dispatch detectives to investigate where there is hard evidence.

And what about the hapless, desperate girl who decides to use a coat hanger?

Mostly a myth, even pre-Roe.

The vast majority of abortions performed pre-Roe were performed by licensed physicians who liked to score some extra cash. Occasionally, however, one of them would slip up and leave a bag of dead babies in a dumpster, and they would be caught and prosecuted. Thus, even though most abortions went unreported and unprosecuted, society was still able to maintain at least a modicum of legal protection for unborn children, as well as maintain a strong social stigma favoring adoption and other non-violent alternatives.

[TheKidster]

Shall I put you on the GRPPL list, for Florida?
Yes, please and thanks for the opinion.

[George W. Bush]

Preferring to be neocon statists...check(I'll assume you are referring to the Iraq war/WWIV, where you can certainly make the case that Isolationism might work.

I'd point out that isolationism is not the same as opposition to an unfettered globalist interventionism. Particularly when that interventionism was founded upon falsehoods (or inaccurate reporting of the facts).

Nobody is crying for Saddam. But there is no evidence of his complicity in 9/11 or that he possessed an ability to attack Israel, let alone America, within the next ten years.

Obviously, Iran was the proper target, not Iraq.

BUT, this is where I draw the line. If you disrespect "the Bing" and Milton Friedman, you better be prepared to put up your dukes. Corporate state???? Watcha talking bout Willis?

You really think Congress represents the ordinary citizens and not the corporate interests? Aside from some meaningless symbolic politics over abortion or sodomy marriage (a distraction to the dazzle the masses), Congress mostly is an ongoing fight between large corporations and various industries. They are who Congress represents. The voters are only the means for them to achieve the power to represent those interests. In essence, they are what the CFR always discreetly describes as 'the national interest'.

Sorry for the late reply but I had family stuff come up.

[ActionNewsBill]

However, even if you are not a Resident of one of those States, please feel free to alert me as to your State of Residence, and I'll get you Campaign info on your State as soon as possible.

Please add me to your list, and keep me informed of any Ron Paul Campaign info for Michigan.

Thanks.

[mthom]

"A Hillary v. Ron Paul or an Obama v. Ron Paul matchup would keep me awake at night."

You dont mean that it would be a difficult decision do you?

[jude24]

You dont mean that it would be a difficult decision do you?

I don't quite know with whom I disagree more. I'd probably stay home.

[mthom]

Speechless

[jude24]

I've always gone my own way. OP, a good FRiend of mine, knows that we've had some good-natured disagreements; he a fairly strong libertarian and me a somewhat centrist independent. Much of this is disagreement over tactics and policy. Very little of it is rooted in disagreements over values.

Ron Paul has taken some extreme positions. This is undeniable. To a centrist, that is as frightening (and, depending on the context, perhaps more so) as Hillary could be.

As I've said before, I'm not enthusiastic about any of the candidates. I'd be a fan of Guiliani since he worked wonders for NYC, but his role with Kerik concerns me. Romney intrigues me, but there's not enough info. I'm keeping my eyes peeled.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

I know. Curiously enough, I don't care either. It has it's own art to it.

It does. I thought that the "V alliteration intro" and the juiced-up John Hurt portrayal of the Adam Susan/Sutler fuhrer character (frothing maniacally "I want everyone to remember why they need us!"... perfect) were about the only changes the Wachowskis made which actually improved on the Original (although I think their original plan for a straight book-to-screen transfer, with the surveillance technology and so on updated 30 years but the rest of the Book otherwise wholly unchanged would've been superb). The scene with V acting out "The Count of Monte Cristo" was an addition which was true to character, at least; and the "heroic last stand" final fight scene (a virtual must for Matrix fans, I know) was another change which, IMHO, at least did not detract from the Original -- it commensurated well with the Viking funeral.

I detested every other change they made. The bollixed-up order and omissions of the bombings (curiously, in a script re-written to go far out of its way to critique the Bush government in particular rather than Forcible Government in general, the Wachowskis neglected to grant their "V" his final triumph of the Book -- the destruction of No. 10 Downing, symbolizing the Executive Power), the complete ommission of the "Lady Justice" speech, the inexplicable addition of a redundant "second Shadow Gallery" in the house of Evey's (now apparently homosexual) temporary protector, the utterly unnecessary invention of the "Three Rivers Virus" subplot (which created plot holes in the back story wide enough to drive a lorry through), the ridiculously deus-ex-machina ending (without even providing the Book's explanation of how V is able to sequester all these Government resources, since they left out the central Fate computer entirely), and -- most unforgiveable of all -- the complete butchering of the Book's (nigh-Shakespearean) "Good Evening, London" speech... ARGH!!

And to think, their initial script simply called for a straightforward technologically-update Book-to-Screen translation... (fuming).

I've been thinking of adding int V's dissertation on the masses and freedom that he gave to Eve prior to his meeting with Finch. Particularly his defining chaos and anarchy as separate, and diametrically opposed, goals. Maybe a dozen people on this website would agree with such sentiments. Sad that...

I agree.

As mentioned, I'm particularly partial to the "Lady Justice" and "Good Evening, London" speeches myself; but that's just a matter of taste.

Incidentally, I'm getting together a Ron Paul for President supporter list over here on the Religion Forum; lemme know if you're interested (hence my ping to you, here. Also, jude24 once asked me for a review of "V4V the Movie", and I don't know if I ever really provided him one).

Best, OP

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

You're on. Thanks!

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Jude's a good egg at heart. On a pure-Theology quiz we'd probably agree 95% or more.

We disagree on policy and tactics. I'm a confessed, unreconstructed revolutionary. He's not. So it goes.

[Cvengr]

I've known Ron Paul since the 70's. He is one of the very few politicians who are truly statesmen and vote their values. Everett Dirksen is the closest I can think of who had similar public impressions, but Ron is more sincere, I suspect, in private.

[Dead Corpse]

Excellent synopsis. Having had a long familiarization with the book before seeing the movie, I was disappointed in some aspects. This isn't to say that the movie is entirely without merit. It does get a partially neutered message across that more people need to hear. "You are in a cage. You designed it. You hold the key. The only thing keeping you there is your idiotic obedience to THEM. Freedom is worth paying the cost."

Maybe it's just me reading that into it, but it was one of the subtexts that came across loudest to me.

As for the Religion forum, the less I go there, the happier I am. ;-) Thanks for the offer though.

[Diamond]

Occasionally, however, one of them would slip up and leave a bag of dead babies in a dumpster, and they would be caught and prosecuted. Thus, even though most abortions went unreported and unprosecuted, society was still able to maintain at least a modicum of legal protection for unborn children, as well as maintain a strong social stigma favoring adoption and other non-violent alternatives.

I would suggest that it was more than a modicum of legal protection because the numbers of abortions committed post-Roe almost certainly skyrocketed. The phony statistics of millions of illegal "back alley" abortions, and huge numbers of maternal deaths put forth as rationalizations for legalizing it were later admitted to have been simply made up. You know, the same way as the numbers of the homeless in the Reagan Administration, or the numbers of Americans without health insurance, blah, blah, blah.

I think any prosecuter would tell you that all prosecution is selective. While much of it is a no-brainer, there are many instances where evidentiary problems might preclude it; not because the underlying acts are not crimes, but because there is a degree of uncertainty that the prosecution can be brought to a successful conclusion. However, that fact does not mean that we should throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak, and legalize the attacks on the baby.

The Supreme Court judges who unleashed the anarchy of Roe upon this Nation, and those after them who uphold its insanity, have turned the very purpose of law itself upside down. It wasn't said for nothing that the law is the great teacher. When its restraining influence is removed the lessons are very bitter, indeed.

Cordially,

[dcwusmc]

ADD ME to the list. GO RON PAUL!!!

[irishtenor]

Amen!

[Jeremydmccann]

My state of residence is the perverted deviant cesspool known as MA.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Gotcha. Your state GOP Primary will be March 4, 2008. I'll be alerting everyone on the list as to your respective State campaign chairman's contact info as soon as that info is available to me.

You can also stay in touch with me at ronpaulcalvinist@sbcglobal.net.

Best, OP

[GOPlibertarian]

Go Ron go! Ron Paul is great from many perspectives. McCain, Giuliani, and Romney all have issues (or albatrosses) that make it hard for conservatives and libertarians in the GOP to support them. The remainder are interesting but Ron is my fave, hands down.

I've also known and suppported Ron Paul for a long time (since I was a teenager in the '80s) and he has always been a man of principle - and a very knowledgeable one at that.

http://electronpaul.blogspot.com

[cva66snipe]

Ron Paul for POTUS bump.