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1 posted on 01/09/2007 3:16:22 PM PST by sionnsar
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2 posted on 01/09/2007 3:17:05 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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"...a story of how the majority of Episcopal churches stand in affirmation of gays and lesbians..."

...while leaving the Christian faith behind.


3 posted on 01/09/2007 3:38:14 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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Here I was hoping it was an ad about the other side of it. Good for Petaluma which may not be so little any more. There is no middle ground on this. Either you approve Bishop V. Gene and his partner in a high office in the church or you do not.

Most churches certainly wouldn't turn gays and lesbians away from participating in worship, but they ought not to be blessing gay unions where they uh are not living like brother and brother, nor should they be receiving communion if they are unrepentent. I mean that used to be Universal Christianity 101.

5 posted on 01/09/2007 4:28:36 PM PST by Aliska
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The theme of the service will be "speaking out against persecution and oppression."

"Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you." Matthew 5:11.

I doubt that this type of persecution will be much remembered at this service.

I must say, however, that I wish the orthodox Anglicans could seem happier about the fact that the powers of the world are persecuting them. It's in the Bible!

7 posted on 01/09/2007 7:12:48 PM PST by Martin Tell
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...this is not such a big controversy in the Episcopal Church as far as we're concerned. It makes us sad that a couple of churches are leaving...


8 posted on 01/09/2007 7:41:08 PM PST by cf_river_rat (Just another defender of the faith)
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Typical liberals... "Our opponents are only extremists..." "It's just a rebellious few..."

Some outright deceptions:
1. The fact so few have left shows most are comfortable.

Of course, we all know that so few have left because TEC will try to steal literally every material possession of anyone who leaves, including graves, relics, sacred objects, etc. And many other choose to stay and fight from within.

2. There are only a few dissenters.

Seven dioceses and dozens of churches, including many of the most reknowned and largest, have left. Fourteen more dioceses are functionally gone. Not counting 6% who have left the Anglican tradition. That's about 20% who have left everything behind to quit.

3. The dissenters had to go to Africa to find likeminded refuges.

TEC, Inc.'s power structure drove them to African bishops... Certainly 21 American bishops would have been glad to give shelter.


10 posted on 01/09/2007 8:53:05 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: sionnsar

So, the official name of the church is now the Church of Laodicea Warm Bucket of Spit Episcopal Church.


12 posted on 01/10/2007 4:31:56 AM PST by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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It's the second largest parish in Northern California at it only has 250 members? Seriously?

Will they still be reporting on the ECUSA's ponderous navel-gazing when the entire denomination numbers under 500?


13 posted on 01/10/2007 9:55:01 AM PST by Gingersnap
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The Culture War is just something made up by Bill O'Reilly anyway.


17 posted on 01/10/2007 12:33:02 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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"the moderate middle ground doesn't get heard much."

I doubt he realizes how blind he is to the real truth of that statement.

In TEC's joined-at-the-hip denomination, the ELCA, their sexuality 'study' responses showed more than half of respondents were against blessing and ordaining gays. The result? They're re-doing the 'study', this time targeting seminary populations.

19 posted on 01/11/2007 9:43:22 AM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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